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I still gripe that Laurie Holden's way too old and tough to properly portray Andrea as we know and love her. That and either Adlard/Moore have created an unrealistic hottie expectation or the show decided it would be more 'realistic' to have all the women either old or uggo. Lori's okay but her behaviour makes me hate her('specially the way she did Shane like that?), Sophia just bummed me right the fuck out(

and how do we think having a living, redneck husband will affect the Tyreese thing later on?

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Not sure if you've read the book, but in either case Carol appears as damaged goods. I mean, you see after (Showspoiler)

Shane smacks the shit out of the guy she does the typical Cops-type thing with the apologising and the defence of his behaviour

, she's pretty cowed there. The cropped hair really throws the image though doesn't it? I had to IMDB it to confirm it wasn't infact Linda Hamilton. But that guy, man... I gotta wonder why between he & the Bros Dixon the creators are trying to hard to insert all these arseholes into the cast.

 

I figured most of the appeal of the book is the fact that there are no clear villians(in the core cast/group) and it's just different personalities clashing. What do you guys make of the insertion of racists & mysoginists?

 

PS- for all the bitching I do, I gotta give props to Rick, Jim & Glenn. Thusfar they're so damned perfect in terms of character & appearance. And Panch's reaction to the reunion was pretty close to my own.

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It was weird cause I've watched many things with source material I'm familiar with and they've never made me feel that way. I felt like it was me that was seeing my long lost family EXCEPT I knew it was gonna happen, unlike Rick. Show is pretty perfect so far. Still, to me, one off the weak points is Lori. Or really the actress. It seems so forced. So fake. With performances like we've seen from some of these actors on this show, she ain't makin' the cut.

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Yup, I'm counting down to Issue 50.

 

 

What occured to me last night is, Zack Snyder's created an unrealistic expectation for casting & creation for us now, given the bar he's set for comic-to-screen faithfullness.

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Not sure if you've read the book, but in either case Carol appears as damaged goods. I mean, you see after (Showspoiler)

Shane smacks the shit out of the guy she does the typical Cops-type thing with the apologising and the defence of his behaviour

, she's pretty cowed there. The cropped hair really throws the image though doesn't it?

 

I gotta reread the first 6 issues, because I'm not sure what's different and what I'm simply remembering differently.

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What's different is, Carol's husband is never seen in the book. He's referenced as a D-bag who died before the book starts, and I guess I'm just wondering how this will affect the set-up in the future of

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Carol, who's always been alone from the viewer's perspective, coupling with Tyreese and then hitting on Rick. On Hindsight, I guess this is TV's way of, like everything else setting up in a much more obvious way Carol's Vulnerability.

I mean, the book had 40 or more issues to set those kind of character traits up not to mention comics allow more subtlety because it's a captive audience.

 

With this in mind though, the TV version's clearly padded out the cast with a lot of filler 'survivors' for the purpose of killing them off, showing the hostile nature of their environment while not allowing harm to come to the core cast, what do you guys think of this?

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I think it compromises the story we know and love, but's a necessary evil for a broader viewing audience not as versed in the storytelling pace of comics. Do you think it's better or worse Panch? Ideally it give the creators the ability to expand on things Kirkman otherwise might not have bothered with, but like I said, Snyder's just had me come to expect a more faithful adaption...

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Lori really isn't a great actress so far, i guess im not noticing as much as others cause i never thought a whole lot of her character, anyway -

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like i keep telling sen, once we close out the prison arc, it wont even matter!

 

 

so uh...what exactly happened with that dude on the roof?

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chopped his hand off? I dunno, alot of holes happened there at the end.

did he really chop his hand off, or was it bitten off? what happened to all the zombies crowding the padlocked door from the beginning? why didnt he just saw through the handcuffs?

I'm predicting a bad ending for both rednecks in the end though.

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I'm not so sure this season will end at the prison either. More than likely at the rate it is moving, it'll be when Shane bites it.

 

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haha, yeah, im talking out my ass about the prison arc, that's way off

...considering we're looking at what this weekend, 4/6? id say you're prolly spot-on with the pacing/where it leaves us.

 

i do love that Norman Reedus (boondock siants represent!!) is one of them, though. and yeah...

ok, zombies are gone, he has nowhere else to go, coudlnt survive the jump...i thought he got eaten, but wasnt the lock still intact? TELEPORTING ZOMBEES

 

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really? if so, i totally didn't catch that. huh.

 

yeah, absolutely. ive missed chunks of this thread, are future seasons going to be longer than 6 eps? also, on other forums, i saw the last episode taking heat - "2 was all zombies, 3 was all story and no undead, its so dumb!" with the usual "if that's how the book is, they should do it different" etc...i dont think a lotta people are getting the zombies as a setting more than the antagonist/central point of the show, but they will as it goes on, i figure.

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okay so nope, i was wrong.

i don't have any complaints so far about the series (except of course how short the season is) if i had to sit through endless episodes of zombie killing it would get old pretty quick. As with any good movie, or series, it's all about character development. Zombies don't add any more than an alien attack or a bad storm or whatever is going on to bring out the best and worst in the characters (but they pretty cool, and scary).

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Just saw ep. 3 and I am also stunned as to why they feel the need to cram the cast w/ redneck stereotypes. But I think casting Michael Rooker as the baddie was brilliant.

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I wonder if he'll be the main villain for the final 3 episodes of this season or if he'll come back as a version of the Governor?

 

I'm also wondering if they'll have Carl kill Shane?

 

 

... also, on other forums, i saw the last episode taking heat - "2 was all zombies, 3 was all story and no undead, its so dumb!" with the usual "if that's how the book is, they should do it different" etc...i dont think a lotta people are getting the zombies as a setting more than the antagonist/central point of the show, but they will as it goes on, i figure.

this is why other forums suck and hondo's rules.

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ah man, i hope they dont bring back rooker as an alternate version of the governor. that plot arc needs to be nice and fleshed out with fresh cast members.

hopefully they will give him some awesome material as this villain he is playing though...

for whatever time he has left lol

 

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Just saw ep. 3 and I am also stunned as to why they feel the need to cram the cast w/ redneck stereotypes. But I think casting Michael Rooker as the baddie was brilliant.

 

 

I wonder if he'll be the main villain for the final 3 episodes of this season or if he'll come back as a version of the Governor?

 

I'm also wondering if they'll have Carl kill Shane?

 

 

 

this is why other forums suck and hondo's rules.

 

So now you're with me, wondering if they'll bring down the hammer the way Kirkman did? I think it was you or Axel that convinced me they have the balls.

 

I love the shit out of Rooker from my Mallrats days so despite him being a whole new entity, I hope to hell he basically gets a kind of 'untold tales of...' treatment, where he might head in a different direction or something, and every ep or two we check in with him and see things as he sees 'em. That'd be the perfect way of inserting new material as they see fit while also letting the core crew roughly follow the prgression we know and love. I'm betting my right nut that Rooker's character won't be back as

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the governer. He's a small-time redneck. Sure he's a bad-arse, but the thing with the Governer was if nothing else he was a hell of a leader, and in this setting he'd have to be above such petty things as racism(considering beggars can't be choosers and all). hell, I was initially positive that he was a ealry interpretation of Otis(the only racist we've seen in the book), and that may still happen. If he heads to Hershel's farm ahead of the others, it'd be a fun reunion especially since 'T-Dog' will inevitably(hopefully) have a short survivability. Tyreese as the token Darkie for life, yo!

 

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Yeah, Jay, after seeing how episode three went down, I'm having doubts as to whether or not they'll

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have Carl go through w/ it like they did in the comic. I'm guessing now...

one of the rednecks (Rooker, his bro, or wife beater guy) will kill Shane out right or Shane will take a bullet/arrow that was meant for Rick and die a heroic TV death.

 

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