Silent Hill

[Stilly]

Hey, we got Silent Hillf

 

Big SH fans might be disappointed? Maybe? I dunno, I was impressed. Certainly better than the Persona announcements

Edited October 19, 2022 by Stilly

[The NZA]

holy hell, that was..i was expecting like, more skateobards and a gatcha game, and i only got the former

 

 

• Silent Hill 2 Remake - looks like UE5?  james' face reminds me of a young david lynch (haha) but the CG stuff looked amazing.  i'm gonna go play more bloober stuff soon to get a feel for their work
• SH F (V?) - the logo stilly posted, what we saw in the trailer looked cool and these details: "A completely new story set in 1960's Japan featuring a beautiful, yet horrifying world. Written by Ryūkishi07, famed for Japanese visual novels dealing with murder mysteries, psychological and supernatural horror."  setting looks awesome, and apparently the writer is great on VN's (Higurashi and Umineko, i've not played either yet)
• Townfall was also a short trailer but what's there seemed...i mean, i played through all the endings of homecoming and like half of downfall, it clearly doesn't take much to get me on board so fuck it let's go (in all seriousness, quieter/anthology type stories would be really cool if done well)
• Ascension seems...ambitious?  i know that horror streams are popular but i don't really think of it as a social genre as much, they gave really vague details on how this'd play but it sounds worth checking out
• the director of the first movie (still one of the better video game adaptations, i think) is coming back for a part 2, seems really excited for more pyramid head
• also a ton of merch, figures to statues - they look quality, i just...like, i adore SH2, i don't know that my game room needs frightening monuments to it but that might just be me
  
  overall, getting ito & composer yamaoko tells me they're taking this a lot more seriously than 10 years back when they kinda farmed out the franchise to whoever.  granted, these are smaller european studios, but what we saw here made a lot of this look more good than bad

 

2 hours ago, Stilly said:

Edit: c'mon, this isn't ATLUS we're talking about here.

 

 

as a former konami diehard, i will absolutely say they've fucked up & buried classic franchises far worse than atlus...MGS V alone was left unfinished,  they locked out kojima & his studio effectively killing silent hills (and were even petty enough to make sure PT doesn't work on PS5's!)

frankly i was surprised they announced sukoden 1 & 2 revival this summer, while somehow worried they'd even fuck that up

[Stilly]

3 hours ago, The NZA said:

and were even petty enough to make sure PT doesn't work on PS5's!

Yeah, but they got that working when they figured out how to jailbreak the PS5, soooo

[Visitant]

18 hours ago, The NZA said:

holy hell, that was..i was expecting like, more skateobards and a gatcha game, and i only got the former

 

 

• Silent Hill 2 Remake - looks like UE5?  james' face reminds me of a young david lynch (haha) but the CG stuff looked amazing.  i'm gonna go play more bloober stuff soon to get a feel for their work
• SH F (V?) - the logo stilly posted, what we saw in the trailer looked cool and these details: "A completely new story set in 1960's Japan featuring a beautiful, yet horrifying world. Written by Ryūkishi07, famed for Japanese visual novels dealing with murder mysteries, psychological and supernatural horror."  setting looks awesome, and apparently the writer is great on VN's (Higurashi and Umineko, i've not played either yet)
• Townfall was also a short trailer but what's there seemed...i mean, i played through all the endings of homecoming and like half of downfall, it clearly doesn't take much to get me on board so fuck it let's go (in all seriousness, quieter/anthology type stories would be really cool if done well)
• Ascension seems...ambitious?  i know that horror streams are popular but i don't really think of it as a social genre as much, they gave really vague details on how this'd play but it sounds worth checking out
• the director of the first movie (still one of the better video game adaptations, i think) is coming back for a part 2, seems really excited for more pyramid head
• also a ton of merch, figures to statues - they look quality, i just...like, i adore SH2, i don't know that my game room needs frightening monuments to it but that might just be me
  
  overall, getting ito & composer yamaoko tells me they're taking this a lot more seriously than 10 years back when they kinda farmed out the franchise to whoever.  granted, these are smaller european studios, but what we saw here made a lot of this look more good than bad

 

 

 

as a former konami diehard, i will absolutely say they've fucked up & buried classic franchises far worse than atlus...MGS V alone was left unfinished,  they locked out kojima & his studio effectively killing silent hills (and were even petty enough to make sure PT doesn't work on PS5's!)

frankly i was surprised they announced sukoden 1 & 2 revival this summer, while somehow worried they'd even fuck that up

 

I know, I know you were ALL waiting for my opinions on the Silent Hill news. I am here to grace you with my presence and talk about all of it. (also I'm using this space to write out my thoughts before tonights main topic which is exactly this >_>)

 

Sh2 remake: Excited. I think fans have a problem...hanging on to the past. Sh2 is a sacred book to a lot of people and changing any of it will instantly set people off. That being said, a lot of people said that about RE2 and look what we got. Now, lets talk bloober. Bloober teams stuff is...maddeningly mid tier. But they do a lot of OG IPs and they are taking risks in the horror space where a lot of people aren't. I'd consider them like a AA developer. That being said, I'm pretty sure they know the weight of this project and are going to take time with it. 

 

SH F: I'm getting a real "Silent Hill as an anthology" vibe from this. Less of a, every game MUST be in silent hill and more of a silent hill is a state of mind kinda thing. I don't know the creators other works, but if he's big enough to get his name slapped on the trailer - he must be important. Either way, trailer was beautiful and maybe we can enjoy a SH not based in the town. 

 

Townfall: Whooooo boy the pedigree on the team working on this.  I have not played Stories Untold or Observation - but I do know Stories untold won a fuckton of awards. Do NOT expect an old school SH experience here. Shits going to be heavy on the story and probably a little lighter on the gameplay. (less action-y I should say). 

 

Ascension: No real comment at this time. Felt like a lot of buzzwords and I don't want to pre-judge the game until I see more. 

 

Movie: Look, I love Sh2..like a lot. A lot, a lot. I am hoping with this remake and movie we can put it to bed for a while. I get it, SH has been gone a long time, and going back to the grandaddy of all SH games is an important step in the future of the franchise (plus money maker). Its the creator of the first movie, which I still love and is one of the best if not the best game adaptation of all time. I'll def see it opening weekend. 

 

SO yeah, to my movie point, there's a cool future for silent hill. We've been begging for content for so long and to get so much all at once is overwhelming. I will say, there are some naysayers out there and it's easy to listen to their BS but don't. I will say, support the new products if you feel they are worthy of your cash because that's how we get out of the endless loop of remakes and to some new content. 

 

I think we as silent hill fans need to let go of the past and start thinking about what the future of the series can be. Its time to move past the red pyramid things and see what other stories can be told in this universe. I think Konami picked some excellent teams to do this and I think the future of silent hill, is very bright. 

Edited October 20, 2022 by Visitant

[The NZA]

i am, admittedly, enough of crusty oldhead to say: yeah, it kinda irks me to see pyramid head outside of james' stories (and i'm tempted to say the specific sexy fucked up nurses as well), as both have psychological reasons for being there/"punishing" james

 

i'm all for doing one more lap there (and another with the movie) and letting that go. something like shattered memories took its own approach to even a "remake" of SH and most folks dug that, i defended homecoming right up to the final act because i'm wary of getting too much into the cult/halo of the sun people but if you're goinna do so and make it hostel/torture porn, i think that's a shit angle for this series

 

SH as a place that draws in the damned is crazy interesting, but expanding that to other corners could be really cool.  for me, there's initially some wariness because of messy stuff like much of downpour, the VN thing (that looked weird?) and the extreme bungling of the HD collection.  i kinda find the kitchen sink approach more interesting this time, as there's no way at least something here doesn't turn out both interesting and good. 

 

but yeah, i agree that the mythologizing of team silent is, at this point, kinda done at the expense of any other team having a go.  the OG team was clearly influenced by works like jacob's ladder, and it's been literal decades so i'm very open to seeing what other influences these teams can bring - @C_U_SPACECOWBOY and i were just talking last night about playing observation and other works from these teams to kinda temper expectations & see what they're capable of

 

now for the love of god, we've got all this and suikoden getting proper ports - can we find a good team to farm out castlevania to?  hopefully less gof of war-y, maybe some souls influence if folks want that?  just...something already

[Visitant]

I was saying last night, that if this attempt at silent hill goes well, I wouldn't be surprised if next October we'd see the same kinda showcase but for Castlevania. Pretty sure the animation for the new series should be done by then.  

[Visitant]

 

[The NZA]