The NZA Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 These things are cyclical, right? Ya'll remember when slashers came back (to the mainstream...calm down, Baytor) via Scream in the 90's, and when alien flicks picked up again with X-Files and even before then. so what's next? Zombies are played out as fuck, Vamps are no better - this isn't to say fun/interesting things cant be done with them (see forthcoming Walking Dead, ongoing True Blood etc) but id argue the (current) well is running dry. I haven't even seen the rifftrax for the last Twilight flick, and im already tired of Werewolves, which is a shame cause there's some alright stories with them. So where to next? i dig good sci-fi, so i'm all about robots when Asimov isn't being fucked up by Will Smith. Demons & supernatural shit is always cool by me, but it works best when subtle and that's not a strength of american horror most times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crimsonfire Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 I voted Frankenstein and Cthulu for shits and giggles. I think there could be a really poignant Oscar-baiting movie in Frankenstein if it's done well. Far as supernatural stuff goes you have your classics: Vampires, Werewolves, Mummies etc and then your slightly more modern: Aliens, Japanese Gigantification of Fauna etc. They seem to be focusing on the older stuff lately giving it a contemporary makeover. I think it's time to start taking all the gimmicky tabloid stuff and giving it more depth. Sci-fi has really changed in the last decade. Movies like Sunshine, Moon and Solaris haven't a little green man in sight. I think Event Horizon hit a perfect balance between psychological horror and plain sci-fi. It did it the right way. Use the sci-fi cliches as the framework for a unique concept. As far as I can tell the monster is a reflection of the times. If this Chinese-led space race kicks off in a big way expect to see waaay more alien movies and movies about isolation in space. Moon was just ahead of its time there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted September 12, 2010 Author Share Posted September 12, 2010 oh, no doubt - there's been tons of shit written on how monster flicks changed after the nuclear event of WW II, for one. With zombies, we've almost completely sci-fi'd them and taken away their earlier voodoo/supernatural mythos (Rec 2 was the last i saw that tried playing with this, and i love the concept but it felt abrupt as hell). i mean, these things obviously modify: vamps now arent often moved by crosses, garlic, moving bodies of water etc. and yeah, im lumping stuff together, but you get it, and well illustrated by Event Horizon. god, i wish i could get more flicks like that. on that note, the most current use i can think of for lovecraftian horror - though not subtle, it did well with its monkey's paw elements - is hands down The Mist. but yeah, stuff like this is far too clever to be used on hot topic shirts and the next season of flims/shows, im kinda wondering where we go to next. i guess disaster flicks could kinda count here, they got exhausted a while back as well though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the division of joy Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 This is perfect for exploitation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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the division of joy Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 That's an FHD and some rep when I get the ability to do so again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crimsonfire Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Is there any situation in life where you can't use a picture of Jocelyn Wildenstein? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keth Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 damn tough choice. judging by this trailer and I think I might go with aliens. I could go for more demon stuff too (paranormal activity 2 will have that covered). I really wish more psych/blair witchy stuff would come up also. I'm a sucker for "shot on home video" movies. I see your point with werewolves too. Always have been my favorite monster, but it is really hard to make a cool movie about them. the last great one was probably dog soldiers (and before that the howling and werewolf in london, so yea) and I liked wolfman more than most folks. I think Aliens and Demons are next though overall :p aliens are supposedly the next subject in the Blood and Ice Cream Trilogy too (Simon Pegg/Edgar Winter flicks) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Cthulhu FTW!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crimsonfire Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 damn tough choice. judging by this trailer and I think I might go with aliens. I could go for more demon stuff too (paranormal activity 2 will have that covered). I really wish more psych/blair witchy stuff would come up also. I'm a sucker for "shot on home video" movies. I see your point with werewolves too. Always have been my favorite monster, but it is really hard to make a cool movie about them. the last great one was probably dog soldiers (and before that the howling and werewolf in london, so yea) and I liked wolfman more than most folks. I think Aliens and Demons are next though overall :p aliens are supposedly the next subject in the Blood and Ice Cream Trilogy too (Simon Pegg/Edgar Winter flicks) That's Edgar Wright surely? Oh and Cornetto? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keth Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 BAHAHAHA! God I cant believe I missed that. I had Frankenstein on my mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panch Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 I went with Bigfoot. Aside from Harry and the Hendersons this has never been done (I think). Didn't Steve Niles do a comic about Bigfoot that I heard was ok? Maybe they can adapt that? Not a fan of Niles so I never picked it up, but maybe it would work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycaon Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 (edited) Pretty sure bigfoot monster movies have been done, just not well. Can't remember any specific examples, though. Edited September 12, 2010 by Lycaon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panch Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Exactly. You know, if they can take a new, fresh take on Bigfoot then I think it would be cool. Make it horror or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Zombies aren't played out, if they continue to evolve as monsters as all others have then they have a promising future. But everyone seems to want to copy Romero whilst simultaneously having the balls to call the man a hack whilst ripping off the monster he created bit by bit. The really good original zombie movies that incorporate other elements than viruses such as magic, demons, aliens, etc are usually panned for "not being zombies" by purists that can't accept the concept of change (I'm looking at you Panch) To answer your question though, Demons/Satanists are on the rise. Slashers "saved" the genre in the 90s, vampires have been a constant since about the same time and are still going strong despite becoming more retarded, there was kind of a false start with aliens in the late 90s/early 00's but it fizzled out quick, and the backroads brutality cycle that got started in the early 00's is still going thought it's starting to fizzle out. Torture porn is the same as dead, though gore porn is going through the roof (but hopefully with Saw ending and Final Destination getting worse and worse with each sequel this will go away soon.) I don't think there's ever going to be a werewolf cycle, it's seemingly nigh-impossible to get a good one made and even harder to make a successful one. Lovecraft enjoys spurts but it'll never fully take off as an "it" genre. Robots need another 10 years before they'll be back in and bigfoot, mummies, and frankenstein are never going to take off. But with The Last Exorcism, Paranormal Activity, [REC] , Drag Me To Hell, House of the Devil, Jeepers Creepers, The Convent, Jack Brooks: Monster Slayer, the Night of the Demons remake, Drag Me To Hell, The Exorcism of Emily Rose, and The Knights of Badassdom I think it's safe to say that demons are the next big thing. I could see this spinning off into a rebirth of the magical creatures subgenre (Leprechaun, Troll, Rumplestiltskin, etc.) but I don't see it happening anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 I went with Bigfoot. Aside from Harry and the Hendersons this has never been done (I think). Didn't Steve Niles do a comic about Bigfoot that I heard was ok? Maybe they can adapt that? Not a fan of Niles so I never picked it up, but maybe it would work. Abominable Bigfoot Terror The Legend of Boggy Creek Return to Boggy Creek Night of the Demon Sawtooth and those are just the least obscure ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jables Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 I voted Mummies just because I really fucking like them. Problem is though that they're rooted in a specific cultural mythology. But then again, 20 years ago it was hard to imagine Vampires outside of Europe to the degree of credibility it has now. What Baytor said about assimilating other ideas to shore it works here too. Imagine an archeologist discovering say, the Mayans or OMFG BETTER YET, THE ANTLANTEANS mummify their dead and suddenly rise. Antlantean Mummies? I think I just called Marvel's next crossover event. My secondary choice is occultism because it gives me the willies, plus it's a genre that I don't mind breaking the fourth wall in that '... it could happen to you, you, or yooooouuuuu' kinda way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panch Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Zombies aren't played out, if they continue to evolve as monsters as all others have then they have a promising future. But everyone seems to want to copy Romero whilst simultaneously having the balls to call the man a hack whilst ripping off the monster he created bit by bit. The really good original zombie movies that incorporate other elements than viruses such as magic, demons, aliens, etc are usually panned for "not being zombies" by purists that can't accept the concept of change (I'm looking at you Panch) Of course I can accept the concept of change! I voted for Obama after all... *hangs head in SEMI-shame* But seriously though, my open-mindedness to zombies is pretty fair. Most magic/voodoo zombie flicks I accept (White Zombie, The Serpent and the Rainbow, Boy Eats Girl). It's the movies that get thrown into the genre of zombie just because it has 'Dead' in the title that piss me off (Evil Dead)! Hell, 28 Days/Weeks Later aren't REALLY zombie flicks, but I love the shit outta them AND consider them in the genre. [REC] Again, another NON-zombie movie I accept. Abominable Bigfoot Terror The Legend of Boggy Creek Return to Boggy Creek Night of the Demon Sawtooth and those are just the least obscure ones. I was makin' a joke about Harry and the Hendersons, but I was talkin' about mainstream blockbusters. I was sure there was B-rated and straight to DVD Bigfoot movies that only YOU would know about. I won't be seeing any of those by-the-way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jables Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Niggahush 28 Days later was awesome, and you should be grateful it's lumped in with your played-out genre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hakujin Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 i agree w/ baytor. i think demons are on the rise even though zombies haven't really reached their apex in pop culture yet. i give vampires another three years before they burn out and hopefully that'll be around season 4 of The Walking Dead, which will hopefully go for around 8 seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crimsonfire Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 If they remake Independence Day I'm going to lose my fucking mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted September 13, 2010 Author Share Posted September 13, 2010 it's gonna happen, crim. might wanna make peace with it. axel - fuck, i never did get to see Dog Soldiers. what'd you think of Brotherhood of the Wolf? kind've a pump-fake as i recall, but still... panch - that reminds me, you seeing RE 3D? baytor: good summary, glad to have a horror aficionado still about. Robots need another 10 years before they'll be back in and bigfoot, mummies, and frankenstein are never going to take off. ok, when you say "take off", you mean as the next big thing, or we get a few quality movies out of (like lovecraftian stuff)? i could see the latter. hell, Jay just called marvel's next summer event. But with The Last Exorcism, Paranormal Activity, [REC] , Drag Me To Hell, House of the Devil, Jeepers Creepers, The Convent, Jack Brooks: Monster Slayer, the Night of the Demons remake, Drag Me To Hell, The Exorcism of Emily Rose, and The Knights of Badassdom I think it's safe to say that demons are the next big thing. Drag me to Hell: so nice, you said it twice. I just noticed Eli Roth's name on the Last Exorcism, so i'm hopeful. when is that one & Paranormal 2 due? which others on this list do you think are must-sees? i went & got those other 2 you told me to, by the way, more on them later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jables Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Unsure of the general consensus, but despite the trashy/god-awful production of Drag me to Hell, it's probably one I enjoyed more than most of the genre from the last few years. I can dig more Demon movies, even chicken demons from Paranormal Activity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crimsonfire Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 I want to see full on demon stuff. Not this bump in the night possession stuff. I mean big snarling bat-winged demons sieging the pearly gates and shit. Religious mythos (specifically Christian) viewed purely as fiction can be pretty intriguing stuff. Preacher is a prime example. Legion had a great concept but spectacularly stunk out the box office. I may get around to watching it some day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keth Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Brotherhood of the Wolf is awesome! Gives the whole "giant mystery beast" a nice twist. I want to see full on demon stuff. Not this bump in the night possession stuff. I mean big snarling bat-winged demons sieging the pearly gates and shit. Religious mythos (specifically Christian) viewed purely as fiction can be pretty intriguing stuff. Preacher is a prime example. Legion had a great concept but spectacularly stunk out the box office. I may get around to watching it some day. I want that^ stuff like this^ @.@ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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