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Which Summer 2012 comic book movie will come out on top?


The Avengers/The Amazng Spider-Man/The Dark Knight Rises  

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May 4: The Avengers (in 3D and probably in IMAX 3D)

July 3: The Amazing Spider-Man (in 3D and IMAX 3D)

July 20: The Dark Knight Rises (in IMAX, not in 3D)

 

All three Spider-Man flicks made over $750M worldwide, with the last one making $885, despite being (widely recognized as) the weakest entry in the franchise. Despite all the fanboy ranker over this reboot, the mainstream appeal of Spider-Man should not be underestimated. This movie doesn't need fanboy approval to bank ridiculous money. Furthermore, it's not inconceivable that it will actually be good. Stranger things have happened.

 

The Dark Knight made over $1B worldwide, but a lot of the hype had to due with the fact that it was the final performance (the Terry Gilliam film not withstanding) of a promising and popular young actor, and one top of that, it was said to be his best performance, portraying a popular character that had already been captured to great critical acclaim by one of the previous generation's greatest actors, and this performance was said to blow that one away. Even if Anne Hathaway or Tom Hardy died before this films release, it would not be likely to generate the kind of buzz TDK had going into its release.

 

On paper, The Avengers seems like an underdog. Each Iron Man made about $600M worldwide, the Incredible Hulk only made $250M, Thor made $450 (though its still in theaters in some markets, it not going to move far from that spot) and Captain America has made about the same in it's first few weekends as Thor, but I'm not sure if it will have as much international appeal as Thor did, so it may come in under Thor's totals. None of them are in Spidey's or Batman's league. Is the cumulative appeal of all these heroes in one film going to be stronger than any of them combined, and more than top-tier heroes like Batman and Spidey? Maybe the fact that this is the first time something like this has ever happened in movies (several heroes established in other movies coming together in one super-movie, like the Traveling Wilburys of comic movies) will capture the public imagination.

 

I don't think anyone here will vote that thy think The Amazing Spider-Man will be the best movie of the 3, so I think that discussion will come down to Avengers vs The Dark Knight Rises.

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Man, I'm torn here.

 

Honestly, I think Batman and Avengers are both ultimately going to be disappointing. I fear Batman is slowly moving towards being just a schlocky action movie. We'll see how Avengers balances out that giant cast without just being a shallow mess.

 

Spider-Man may be the surprise for me. My expectations were low, but I actually liked that trailer. Quality wise, it may win the day. I'm saving my vote for some other perspectives.

 

Money wise, I have no doubt that it'll be Batman. It doesn't have the hype of the last one, but people loved The Dark Knight. People that don't even watch movies like that. It seemed like everyone had to see that movie, the ones that were hooked are going to be chomping at the bit for the sequel.

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have we ever had so many hero's in one film like this?

Yes, we've had X-Men films, but what we haven't had is heroes with their own movies coming together in one super movie. As for other movies that have had established franchises coming together, there's Freddy Vs Jason, two Alien Vs Predator films, there were a lot of crossovers with Godzilla, but I can't think of anything else. But all those films were gimmick films. The Avengers is clearly a culmination of all the previous films. Who knows if this will give it an unforeseeable edge.

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I haven't seen the Avengers yet but I know that between the Spider-man and Batman trailers, I'm more excited for Spider-man. I just have a hard time justifying Bane in a Batman movie (and I loved his Knightfall story as much as the next guy). It just feels forced. I hope I'm wrong, I really do. I want to like it.

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Having heard several reviews now about The Avengers, I think the Batman movie will not only be a better movie overall, but will out gross The Avengers.

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I will be genuinely astounded if Avengers is better than The Dark Knight Rises, gross-wise I think it'll be pretty close but I think Bats may just shade it.

 

All of ye seem to be forgeting just how good and big The Dark Knight was, Nolan isn't making this just for the fun of it, he's planning to outdo the last two, it's goin to be fucking huge.

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Batman 3

Money wise - There were a lot of factors involved that made The Dark Knight a major hit, and Jax touched on a couple already. You had the draw of a dead celebrity, you also had the recognition of The Joker. The character has a nostalgia factor for non-comic book fans, and people were eager to see a different take on him.

Bane is largely completely unknown to non comic book fans.

Avengers also appeals to children a lot more than the Nolan batman films. It's bright and colorful and loud, and populated by at least 3 characters that they know from cartoons. Kids know Batman, but the movie looks grim and serious. There will be far fewer children begging their parents to see batman than the Avengers.

 

Quality wise - Because the 2nd movie made so much money is exactly why I'm dubious about this one. They are now fully aware of the potential profit to be made.

Now, you would think the mentality would be "Hey, this Nolan fella knows what he's doing. Lets let him do his thing!", but its almost NEVER like that in Hollywood. More money means more fingers in the pie and more people demanding input or wanting more things they can market as toys. Before you know it Batman is fighting giant spiders.

I would be a little surprised if Nolan is allowed to make the movie he really wants to.

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Batman 3

Money wise - There were a lot of factors involved that made The Dark Knight a major hit, and Jax touched on a couple already. You had the draw of a dead celebrity, you also had the recognition of The Joker. The character has a nostalgia factor for non-comic book fans, and people were eager to see a different take on him.

Bane is largely completely unknown to non comic book fans.

Avengers also appeals to children a lot more than the Nolan batman films. It's bright and colorful and loud, and populated by at least 3 characters that they know from cartoons. Kids know Batman, but the movie looks grim and serious. There will be far fewer children begging their parents to see batman than the Avengers.

 

Fair points, but I still think, the vast majority (and a few more) of those that saw The Dark Knight will go, especially after it's at 100% on rotten tomatoes :D

 

Quality wise - Because the 2nd movie made so much money is exactly why I'm dubious about this one. They are now fully aware of the potential profit to be made.

Now, you would think the mentality would be "Hey, this Nolan fella knows what he's doing. Lets let him do his thing!", but its almost NEVER like that in Hollywood. More money means more fingers in the pie and more people demanding input or wanting more things they can market as toys. Before you know it Batman is fighting giant spiders.

I would be a little surprised if Nolan is allowed to make the movie he really wants to.

 

But you forget, that Nolan came out and said he didn't know if he'd do another one, and that he only would if he got the right story. For a good few months we didn't even know if there would be another one.

Remember also, this film isn't in 3D because he said so, no other reason. I think this was more of a Coppola/Godfather 2 situation than anything.

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The first poll question was worded a little oddly. I took the first question, "which will do better," to mean which will be the "better" film. And I've every belief Nolan will deliver a film on par w/ The Dark Knight (the greatest superhero film thus far), perhaps one that even surpasses it. Avengers was fun, and highly entertaining, but the pathos Nolan has created w/ his Batman has yet to

 

The Avengers, however, will most likely make more money. Avengers is in IMAX, 3D, and 2D. Plus it has a wider appeal to younger kids. I saw quite a few very young kids at The Avengers on opening night. I hope parents won't be bringing their five-year-olds to see TDKR. At least that's not what the WB marketing team seems to be pushing for w/ their latest trailer.

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The first poll question was worded a little oddly. I took the first question, "which will do better," to mean which will be the "better" film. And I've every belief Nolan will deliver a film on par w/ The Dark Knight (the greatest superhero film thus far)

 

 

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If you could scroll that screenshot down about 4 ft. you would see Amazing Spider-Man at #81 with $62 mil.

 

Those are just opening weekend numbers, of course. A brutal massacre may have played a large role in stifling the initial wave of movie goers. I guess we'll see if it recovers and builds steam.

 

Personally, I don't think it has a chance in hell of making more money than Avengers.

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