Mortiis558 Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Others please post your own top 20 I am not here to argue you just want to see people's opinions (and maybe get some new ideas of worthwhile games to play) These are all games I have beat or put enough time into to get a very good idea of the game (50-100+ hours) 20. Gothic 4 - Arcania 19. Grandia 2 18. KoToR 2 17. A Farewell to Dragons 16. Titan Quest 15. Dungeon Siege 2 14. The Witcher 2 13. Baldur's Gate 2 12. Wild Arms 2 11. Fallout 3 10. Shin Megami Tensei: DDS 9. Xenogears 8. Everquest 7. Mass Effect (trilogy) 6. Planescape Torment 5. Tales of Phantasia 4. FF7 (yeah top 5 suck it) 3. Suikoden V 2. Neverwinter Nights 1 1. System Shock 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 digital devil over nocturne, fallout 3 over 1 & 2 (or even NV), phantasia over Vesperia...you've got some controversial picks, but i havent played enough of these to really weigh in. an overall list of W/JRPGs, MMOs, action RPGs etc is kinda daunting for me, id have a much easier time breaking them up into genres personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortiis558 Posted September 16, 2012 Author Share Posted September 16, 2012 Honestly I ALWAYS get Nocturne and DDS confused...and Fallout 1 and 2 I have never really played for longer than a few hours. I love Vesperia, really really love it, but Phantasia is what introduced me to the Tales saga so it will always have a special place in my heart. But feel free to break it into whatever lists you want really. I wouldn't say it has to stick with RPG's, I just don't want a Top 20 of all time best games across all systems and genre's. I am sure that's been done to death. But honestly I don't feel like System Shock 2, or Fallout (series), or the FF Tactics, or Deus Ex belong on a RPG list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 they don't for you cause the first is a hororr/action, then isometric, the strategy, then action RPG, im guesing? see yeah, that's why i cant do them all in one: Tales games dont have good plots for me, but the engine is better and sometimes i like the characters. some of my favorite JRPGs have misreable engines/combat though, so i gauge them different in my head. likewise, the nature of more WRPGs doesnt involve much character for me, and ideally, the combat should be better. so say, putting Xenogears (great story for me at the time, controls were eh) and then say Planescape (fantastic story/character, controls like crap as well), it gets weird in my head. ill do one of my own later, i still have bigger titles like Xenoblade, Witcher 2, System Shock 2 etc to get through first! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortiis558 Posted September 16, 2012 Author Share Posted September 16, 2012 Upon further reveiw I was correct in putting DDS instead of Nocturne. Nocturne was great and I think both (all 3 if you wanna count releases) are better than the Persona series, but DDS is my favorite. Nothing in particular to point out why, I just got into it more than I did Nocturne. There are still quite a few games I need to beat though. You had said something about This World Ends with You, and that was one I played, enjoyed a lot, but got sidetracked and haven't been back, but I think I will move that one up on my list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maldron Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 A heartbreaking story, gameplay that allowed you to customize your party fully instead of grinding up demons, and an awesome soundtrack ain't enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 In all fairness, Fallout 3 works better as a stand-alone game than any other game in the series (including 1 which didn't really realize its full potential) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelogan Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 I too agree that F3 > previous installments. Although I do wish I would still talk like a retard if I had low intelligence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Yeah, there were a few things that didn't come over I missed, but they added it in New Vegas so it's all good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelogan Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 In no particular order. I made most of my decisions based on time spent playing and enjoying said game. Chrono Trigger Shining Force II The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Disgaea Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals Fable 2 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic World of Warcraft Fallout 3 Phantasy Star Online Pokemon Red/Blue Tales of Vesperia Earthbound Skies of Arcadia Suikoden Grandia II Legend of Legaia Phantasy Star III: Generations of Doom Resonance of Fate Neverwinter Nights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 goddammit, i have to get around to Shining Force II...i think knowing we didn't get the finale to 3 is keeping me down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 You really do need to get around to it, Shining Force 2 is vastly improved over part 1 and you will fall in love with a stupid looking chicken with a cape because he is the fucking destroyer of worlds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Visitant Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 I see many of you do NOT have Final Fantasy 8 on your lists. Some faith in humanity is restored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 It's probably hated a bit more than it deserves, but it's still not very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Visitant Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 I don't think one person can accurately explain the plot to me and not tell me it's completely retarded afterwards, THEN apologize for insulting retarded people by comparing them to Final Fantasy 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortiis558 Posted September 19, 2012 Author Share Posted September 19, 2012 I was so completely dissapointed with ff8, I almost gave up on the series. Thankfully 9 restored some my faith until X2-2... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C_U_SPACECOWBOY Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 I don't think one person can accurately explain the plot to me and not tell me it's completely retarded afterwards... Come on now, that could be said of any Final Fantasy. It's as much a part of the series as crystals, moogles and chocobos! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 +1 to john, and damn baytor for wanting me to move Shining Force 2 up the ranks. i can't take more unfinished stories - is it at least self-contained? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Shining Force 2 is a full and complete story, it's all one game, it doesn't even really have any connection to Shining Force 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelogan Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 I had never played anything like Shining Force when I got it. It was a strategy game like Military Madness, but it had a story. Like reading a book. And characters I could level and drastic changes. This sounds so absurd after having a bunch of RPGs under your belt, but at a point about shit...I dunno, 1/10th of the way through the game Where you wrap up the story for the town you start in and you leave or something I thought I had just beat the game. I foiled an evil plot and everything was fine. I'd spent countless hours grinding my crew and exploring everything, and getting stuck because I'm a dumb little kid, walking around in circles for days because I didn't know you could go in a hole in a tree. But yeah, so I was like "Well that was a fun game, I should play the first one now". And suddenly shit goes down and the game just changed scenery. And the enemy got bigger. And it blew my fucking mind. Then it kept going...and going. Months working my way through that game. So yeah, nostalgia goggles and all, but I've played it since and it's a solid game. Story isn't going to blow your mind or anything, but it's a lot of fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 fuuuuuuuuuuuuck, alright i gotta stop sleeping on it. again thoguh, if you ever want old-school strategy RPG action like that, Fire Emblem is great and has character permadeath to ensure tears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Man, I don't care for character permdeath in strategy RPGs, it's always been nothing but ragefuel for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newtype Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 In no particular order. Chrono Trigger Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 Final Fantasy IX Final Fantasy VI Final Fantasy IV Valkyria Chronicles Suikoden II Suikoden v Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne Dragon Quest V Valkyrie Profile Secret of Mana Skies of Arcadia Chrono Cross Xenogears Lunar 2: Eternal Blue Demon's Souls Diablo II Fallout 1 fallout 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 pretty thorough...you know mine'd be similar but include Earthbound (possibly my fave), PS 4 (sometimes 2 but 4 edges out), TWEWY (modern classic), and a few others...Chrono Cross is an interesting pick, didn't know you liked it as much. Fallout 1 & 2...i have to admit, this might sound harsh but i tried 2 recently and couldn't get into it. isometric is okay by me but the engine is very very dated, i wish id've played it in the day when Junker told me to. I pushed through for Planescape (which'd absolutely make my list) but not quite that one. its nom would trouble me too cause its easier to just do a JRPG list than an overall one - ive still not played some of the most heralded western RPGs, like Baldur's Gate 2, any of the Ultimas etc. oh! and for J ones, i still need to play Panzer Dragoon Saga. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Fallout 2 is a terrible starting point for any gamer. You have to play and beat the first game, learn the true meanings of loss and pain and then you'll be ready to start trying to play fallout 2. It is stupid hard no matter your skill set but if you played the first you at least have some idea of what you're in for. It's fairly ingenious in that you can never power level your way to instant victory. You've got to be resourceful, mindful of supplies, and smart which makes the post-apocalyptic theme that much more immersive (it's also the reason purists tend to write off the later games.) My advice to you is to play fallout 1. Your first hour or two will not be terribly enjoyable but after that you're good, and its a really short game all things considered. After that, try 2 again. Just remember, save often and in multiple slots and in 2 if you get a random encounter of a hers of cows or a field of mutilated bodies then RUN THE FUCK AWAY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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