The NZA Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 source Sony isn't shy about its ambitions for Spider-Man. All The Amazing Spider-Man 2 really did, aside from ending what was a genuinely likable onscreen pairing, was tease sequels and spinoffs. Did it make one lick of sense that Harry Osborn became the Green Goblin, other than the fact he's supposed to? No. But he did, and now he's poised for appearances in the followups. All this is because Sony wants to do the kind of world-building that Marvel is doing with The Avengers and what DC plans on doing with the Justice League. And in its desperation to play superhero catch-up, it's stretching the Spider-Man mythos to its conceivable limits. And it's not working. Spidey doesn't work that way. The reason why The Avengers and even Man of Steel in its best moments worked was because both films understood scale. Spider-Man, at his heart, is a small-town hero, and his best stories tend be focused largely on him, his relationships, and his struggles. Making him the heart of an expansive movie universe is wrongheaded, betrays the soul of the character, and makes it clear that Sony just wants the money. The thing is, Sony can't even really be faulted for wanting those sweet superhero dollars. Everyone's doing it. But making a hypothetical Aunt May movie of all things would be the worst move in a string of bad moves dating back to Spider-Man 3, and it would hint at a cynicism that leaves a bad taste in the mouth. First, it's a risky, downright nonsensical project, especially as it took this long to give Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel — hugely important characters, don't forget — movies of their own. Second, the Parker backstory in the films, already full of corporate intrigue, was one of the most disliked plotlines in the rebooted series. Third, the one comic story from May's youth being mentioned in these rumors, Trouble, was booted from generally accepted canon because it was terrible. Fourth, telling a story about Aunt May isn't telling a story about Spider-man, which is already the biggest problem with Sony's present plans. again, id still be down for 2 hours of Tarantino writing this, but it's not what we'd be getting part of me is still dealing with a reality where we're all far more hyped for the next Guardians of the Galaxy project than a Venom flick. i can't resolve this, we're in the wrong timeline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keth Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Sony leak shows that they were, and are apparently still negotiating with Marvel on a Spidey deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alive she cried Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I finally watched The Amazing Spider-Man 2 last night, and it really could've been a great movie, it nearly was. But it's just too overcrowded, there's too many sub plots and some of the character arcs feel really forced and rushed. I feel bad for Garfield, he really did a fantastic job as Spider-Man. The wisecracking Spidey was finally brought to the screen successfully. If Marvel and Sony can somehow sort this shit out, then I'd have no problem with Marvel just soft resetting and keeping Garfield as Spider-Man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted December 13, 2014 Author Share Posted December 13, 2014 i get the wisecracking moments, but that movie was butt e$ butttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keth Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I think Im the only one who legitimately and thoroughly enjoyed that movie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 It was a good trailer for Amazing Spider-Man 3, I give it that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hakujin Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 I think Im the only one who legitimately and thoroughly enjoyed that movie I enjoyed it. Bought it on sale Black Friday for a few bucks. However, except for "that scene" with Gwen and the very final sequence of the film, the third act was mostly poo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keth Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Man at the rate Sony is getting fucked in the ass, they'll have no choice but to sell Spidey back to Marvel anyway. They cancelled The Interview officially And lawsuits are starting to pop up now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C_U_SPACECOWBOY Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 (edited) If only Kim Jong Un was in more of Seth Rogen's movies... Edited December 18, 2014 by C_U_SPACECOWBOY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keth Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 HOLY SHIT YOU GUYS ITS FUCKING HAPPENING! http://marvel.com/news/movies/24062/sony_pictures_entertainment_brings_marvel_studios_into_the_amazing_world_of_spider-man Marvel's Kevin Feige to Produce Next Installment of the Spider-Man Franchise with Amy Pascal (Culver City, California, and Burbank, California February 09, 2015) – Sony Pictures Entertainment and Marvel Studios announced today that Sony is bringing Marvel into the amazing world of Spider-Man. Under the deal, the new Spider-Man will first appear in a Marvel film from Marvel's Cinematic Universe (MCU). Sony Pictures will thereafter release the next installment of its $4 billion Spider-Man franchise, on July 28, 2017, in a film that will be co-produced by Kevin Feige and his expert team at Marvel and Amy Pascal, who oversaw the franchise launch for the studio 13 years ago. Together, they will collaborate on a new creative direction for the web slinger. Sony Pictures will continue to finance, distribute, own and have final creative control of the Spider-Man films. Marvel and Sony Pictures are also exploring opportunities to integrate characters from the MCU into future Spider-Man films. The new relationship follows a decade of speculation among fans about whether Spider-Man – who has always been an integral and important part of the larger Marvel Universe in the comic books – could become part of the Marvel Universe on the big screen. Spider-Man has more than 50 years of history in Marvel's world, and with this deal, fans will be able to experience Spider-Man taking his rightful place among other Super Heroes in the MCU. Bob Iger, Chairman and CEO, The Walt Disney Company said: "Spider-Man is one of Marvel's great characters, beloved around the world. We're thrilled to work with Sony Pictures to bring the iconic web-slinger into the Marvel Cinematic Universe, which opens up fantastic new opportunities for storytelling and franchise building." "We always want to collaborate with the best and most successful filmmakers to grow our franchises and develop our characters. Marvel, Kevin Feige and Amy, who helped orchestrate this deal, are the perfect team to help produce the next chapter of Spider-Man," said Michael Lynton, Chairman and CEO of Sony Pictures Entertainment. "This is the right decision for the franchise, for our business, for Marvel, and for the fans." "Sony Pictures and Marvel Studios share a love for the characters in the Spider-Man universe and have a long, successful history of working together. This new level of collaboration is the perfect way to take Peter Parker's story into the future," added Doug Belgrad, president, Sony Pictures Entertainment Motion Picture Group. "I am thrilled to team with my friends at Sony Pictures along with Amy Pascal to produce the next Spider-Man movie," said Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige. "Amy has been deeply involved in the realization on film of one of the world’s most beloved characters. Marvel's involvement will hopefully deliver the creative continuity and authenticity that fans demand from the MCU. I am equally excited for the opportunity to have Spider-Man appear in the MCU, something which both we at Marvel, and fans alike, have been looking forward to for years." Spider-Man, embraced all over the world, is the most successful franchise in the history of Sony Pictures, with the five films having taken in more than $4 billion worldwide. ABOUT SONY PICTURES ENTERTAINMENT Sony Pictures Entertainment (SPE) is a subsidiary of Sony Entertainment Inc., a subsidiary of Tokyo-based Sony Corporation. SPE's global operations encompass motion picture production, acquisition and distribution; television production, acquisition and distribution; television networks; digital content creation and distribution; operation of studio facilities; and development of new entertainment products, services and technologies. For additional information, go to http://www.sonypictures.com/. ABOUT MARVEL ENTERTAINMENT Marvel Entertainment, LLC, a wholly-owned subsidiary of The Walt Disney Company, is one of the world's most prominent character-based entertainment companies, built on a proven library of more than 8,000 characters featured in a variety of media over seventy-five years. Marvel utilizes its character franchises in entertainment, licensing and publishing. For more information visit marvel.com. © 2015 MARVEL More on Marvel.com: http://marvel.com/news/movies/24062/sony_pictures_entertainment_brings_marvel_studios_into_the_amazing_world_of_spider-man#ixzz3RJWWaNsm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hakujin Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Must amend thread title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newtype Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 This is some fucking bullshit: As a result of the new deal, Thor: Ragnarok will now arrive nearly four months later than planned, moving to November 3, 2017 (from July 28). Black Panther, which previously held that spot, gets delayed eight months, going from that original November 3 date to July 6, 2018. That, in turn, bumps Captain Marvel to November 2, 2018 and moves Inhumans all the way to July 12, 2019. The two-part Avengers: Infinity War, meanwhile, remains set for release May 4, 2018 and May 3, 2019. Fuck Sony and a big fuck you to Spiderman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share Posted February 10, 2015 ^yeah, way more excited for a black panther flick than the next spider mess at this point...wait i skimmed that PR, does this mean someone else or are we still stuck with garfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keth Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Garfield is out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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C_U_SPACECOWBOY Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Well, the good news it's a fresh start with Kevin Feige and Amy Pascal (from the original trilogy) producing, so even though they are saying Sony retains creative control, we know who's really pulling the strings. Too bad for Garfield, as he nailed the wise-cracking Spider-man while wearing the suit (although I wasn't thrilled with his Peter). That aside, I'm glad they are scuttling the Amazing franchise (those movies honestly made me long for Spidey 3, Emo Pete and all). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keth Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Alot of people are really pushing for Miles Morales. I'm all for a black Spider-Man, but only after Peter Parker gets to fight with the Avengers. I want to see what Marvel does with him. I'm going to guess they are going to have him already established and probably well out of high school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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alive she cried Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) I'm not understanding the lack of excitement here. We're bumping back Thor Ragnawank for a Feige and Marvel studios created Spider-Man movie. Yes, I know Sony still have "creative control" but the fact that a Spider-Man movie is taking over a Marvel movie slot tells me Marvel are behind the wheel on this. And though I was a fan of Garfield, losing him means Marvel get a clean slate to do their magic. This is a great day for Spider-Man fans. Edited February 10, 2015 by alive she cried Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alive she cried Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Alot of people are really pushing for Miles Morales. I'm all for a black Spider-Man, but only after Peter Parker gets to fight with the Avengers. I want to see what Marvel does with him. I'm going to guess they are going to have him already established and probably well out of high school. I'd be very surprised if he wasn't in High School. Marvel seem to love having a young teenage Spidey (Ultimate Spidey Peter and Miles) and after rereading Ultimate Spider-Man recently, I really hope they make him a sixteen year old. Though I do not want to see an origin, just establish he's been Spidey about a year and throw him in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keth Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 It would be really cool to see the dynamic a teenager has with the rest of the crew. Definitely no origin though. I think it's safe to assume everyone knows where he came from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alive she cried Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Exactly. I loved the dynamic teenage Spider-Man has with the rest of the adult Avengers in the Ultimate Universe. I know "Ultimate" is kind of a dirty word these days. But as I said earlier, I have been rereading Ultimate Spider-Man again, and it is without a doubt the best Spidey I've ever read (even better than The Clone Saga). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alive she cried Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Still rumour at this stage, but we may be getting our wish Axels. Marvel Hoping To Ultimately Reclaim SPIDER-MAN Rights; "Much Younger" Actor Wanted Marvel Studios has been trying to get their hands on Spider-Man for years apparently, offering Sony Pictures BILLIONS to get him back. Hit the jump for details on that, what age range they're looking for in terms of actors, Avi Arad's role in the reboot, and much more! The Hollywood Reporter has reached out to their insiders for details on the deal between Marvel Studios and Sony Pictures, and the whole thing is very interesting. The Disney has been trying for years to get the rights to Spider-Man apparently, offering billions (meaning that they consider his acquisition on the same level as the Star Wars franchise). Sony refused though, and still no money has changed hands between the two studios. In fact, the deal might not be what you expect! Apparently, it's "instead seen as a quid pro quo transaction" which will see both Marvel and Sony feel the benefits. The former (who still control the merchandising rights to the character) are said to be very pleased as the effect on sales this deal will have should be bigger than any financial sort of offering Sony could have come up with. One insider claims that: "Sony would never have made this deal if they still retained the merchandising rights. Even a poor performing movie could be saved by strong merchandise sales, and Spider-Man is one of the bigger brands out there." Despite the fact that Marvel are effectively taking over the franchise, Sony and Pascal will still have influence over who ends up playing the character, and the hunt is now on for "an actor much younger than 31-year-old Andrew Garfield." They're also looking for a writer, so maybe Drew Goddard has been dumped along with Marc Webb (who has now also been confirmed as not making a return) and everyone else who was attached to the upcoming movies. Matt Tolmach andSatan Avi Arad have been downgraded to executive producers from producers, a meaningless title which will see tham have "no real say in the creative direction of the franchise". Meanwhile, one of the most interesting tidbits is the fact that, "One knowledgeable source sees the move as a first step to Marvel re-acquiring the rights to Spider-Man down the road, while another believes Disney is positioning itself to acquire Sony should it ever become available." If the franchise's fortunes turn around, it's hard to imagine Sony ever giving up Spidey, but you have to imagine that Kevin Feige has a plan. What do you guys think of these latest details? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alive she cried Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) Oh God Sony, just give us the ball and GO HOME! Nobody wants to play with you, you're stupid and you smell. Sony Still Moving Ahead With SINISTER SIX, VENOM, And More...Without Kevin Feige's Involvement Have we all started getting prematurely excited about the deal between Marvel and Sony ? Some fascinating new details have now emerged about the financial aspect of their arrangement, while all of the previously announced spinoffs are still expected to happen, minus Kevin Feige! So, just how much did getting Spider-Man in Captain America: Civil War and (probably) Avengers: Infinity War cost Marvel Studios? Nothing. Sony aren't getting paid for loaning him out either, and there are also no plans for Marvel to receive a cut of the box office from any future Spider-Manfilms. Similarly, Sony won't be compensated with a percentage of the revenue Disney makes from their releases featuring the wall-crawler either. Instead, both studios are relying on the box office boost that the character's involvement with the Marvel Cinematic Universe will provide them. Kevin Feige meanwhile also isn't being paid for helping to revive the franchise for Sony according to Variety's report. They too report that a younger Peter Parker is being looked for, and that he WILL indeed return to high school. Here's the worrying part though. "The studio is still moving forward with the Spider-Man villain-centric “Sinister Six,” and “Venom” spinoff, as well as a film that features female characters in the “Spider-Man” universe. “The Amazing Spider-Man 3″ has been cancelled. While Marvel’s Feige is involved with Sony’s new “Spider-Man” films, he currently is not expected to be creatively involved with the spinoffs, sources say." Should we be worried? It's hard to imagine Sony souring their relationship with Marvel by releasing a string of mediocre spinoffs, and how can Feige NOT be involved with them when he's helping to steer the 2017 Spider-Man movie? They'll take place in the same world after all, but if Sony do suddenly decide to release a Sinister Six movie without Spidey and a Venom movie from the chump who wrote The Amazing Spider-Man 2, perhaps we're getting a bit too excited too soon about this deal? Let's hope not! Edited February 10, 2015 by alive she cried Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keth Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Yeah I dont see how those are gonna work in the real world. Im pretty much over seeing Venom at all now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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