the division of joy Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 i Can see your point. i just disagree with you on it... isn't that life? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganny McVagflaps Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 tom -----------meg HANKS-----RYAN You've Got the Word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alive she cried Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 am...eh..what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganny McVagflaps Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 Sorry, I'm really high.  Moving on! DOJ mentioned Elvis and that made me think of the King's cameo. Remember when  » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Jesse was leaving Salvation and picked up the hitchers. Jesus, that whole issue was great. The radio phone-in, Bob and Freddy..  I gotta dig that bad boy out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the division of joy Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 fuckin stoner.... dare i ask how elvis ties you to that ep? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalHeart Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 (edited) ASC- » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This could be me being dense or whatevs, but I didn't translate what Jesse did as him seeing Tulip as being inferior. I saw it as he wouldn't be able to forgive himself for essentially killing her if she died for his cause. Was it fucked up that he did it after the first time? Hell yeah. He knew she can take care of herself, but he couldn't bare to let her come fight when he was walking into the coffin that he built for himself. Y'know? Edited January 2, 2007 by MetalHeart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jables Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 ASC- WROOOOOOONG Â I'll defend the ending of Preacher until the day I die, so if my blood gets up don't take offence. Preacher is a state of mind. If you got no problem with psychology terms or prefer Chaplain to L&H fair enough, but you gotta feel the uhm... 'code' to be able to apprecxiate the story as you've exhibited. I'm the sorta fella feels the way Jesse does. YES it's probably a subtle form of misogyny/ chauvanism(sp), but it's still chivalry. It's old school. It's really the age-old JLA Vs Elite arguement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the division of joy Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 asc.. you can blame the end of my beer supply on this... it was a good enough ending for a great book.... after that, you take up battle with skeet an 2t.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Bob Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 i thought it was the logical point to end on.. Â It was the logical point. Because as wonky as it sounds, when all's said and done Preacher is at its heart a love story. Jesse and Tulip's relationship is what held the series together, it was the source of the greatest drama in the books and it was the arch that the story was built on. So yeah, it was perfectly fitting that the story ended there. There is no more fitting end for Jesse and Tulip than a ride into the sunset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jables Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 Thankyou SB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalHeart Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 Hear Hear! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alive she cried Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 you know SB, musing over this, it's actually possible you're right about the love story stuff.  You see after I bought The first graphic novel, due to lack of funds there was a six month gap before i got the second. I must have read this a least a hundred times in that space of time. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « and it contained everything i loved about preacher in abundance, Cass and Jesse's friendship,The Saint,really dark humour and an extreme lack of love story.  Then I got a job and picked the rest up in a couple of months,these then ran together and i suppose because of this i was able to kinda phase out the love story and concentrate on, Cass and Jesse's friendship, The Saint and really dark humour.  That was until the end of alamo, when there's nuthin' but love story, and there's nothin' for me to grab onto.  Also, and this may be 'cos he was my favourite character, but i really hated the way he went with Cass. But that was at least original, so i could've lived with that, but when he did go that way Cass should've died and not come back, there was no reason for it.  Surely ye'd at least agree that Cass, Tulip and Jesse (twice) all dying and coming back is annoying.  Finally I always wondered about the fact that God had the power to take away Jesse's word and bring Tulip back to life, why did'nt he just kill jesse, when all he needed was Jesse dead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganny McVagflaps Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 I felt a big part of the story was  » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « the redemption of Cassidy. When I met Ennis way back when I asked him why he made Cassidy into such a fucker - this was around the time of the issue where they thought Jesse was dead and Cass had Tulip held hostage in the motel - and alls he said to me was "Wait and see". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jables Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 you know SB, musing over this, it's actually possible you're right about the love story stuff. You see after I bought The first graphic novel, due to lack of funds there was a six month gap before i got the second. I must have read this a least a hundred times in that space of time. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « and it contained everything i loved about preacher in abundance, Cass and Jesse's friendship,The Saint,really dark humour and an extreme lack of love story.  Then I got a job and picked the rest up in a couple of months,these then ran together and i suppose because of this i was able to kinda phase out the love story and concentrate on, Cass and Jesse's friendship, The Saint and really dark humour.  That was until the end of alamo, when there's nuthin' but love story, and there's nothin' for me to grab onto.  Also, and this may be 'cos he was my favourite character, but i really hated the way he went with Cass. But that was at least original, so i could've lived with that, but when he did go that way Cass should've died and not come back, there was no reason for it.  Surely ye'd at least agree that Cass, Tulip and Jesse (twice) all dying and coming back is annoying.  Finally I always wondered about the fact that God had the power to take away Jesse's word and bring Tulip back to life, why did'nt he just kill jesse, when all he needed was Jesse dead  ASC-  » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « For one it was never stated for gospel that God took away the word. It simply went & came back. I'm currently re-reading the whole thing(not to mess with you, it's that time of year) and a big pushpoint I'm seeing in book 3 is that for better or worse, Genesis & Jesse are one, meaning Jesse's fear of Angelville coulda reflected on Genesis who, without corporeal form could fuck off into the dark recesses of Jesse's mind. At the very aside of that though, even if God had that ability, he wouldn't kill Jesse because if there's any other side stories to this, one've'em's that God's a needy punk bitch who'd sooner risk his own skin to be loved than do the right thing. I found it a little trite in that Bond villian way myself, but no accounting for the word of Ennis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alive she cried Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 that actually makes, well the first bit i'm not sure about, » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « but the not killing Jesse 'cos of his ego and need to be loved, makes sense,since he brought back Cass and jesse to prove he was a loving god. thanks skeet.  FUCKIN' SEX AND THE CITY.  sorry it's on the same room as me right now, and is driving me crazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaze byrne Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 I talked about this over in the preacher forum. i love preacher, without a doubt some of the greatest writing ever and i don't just mean comics, but ... ah I hated the ending way too cheezy for my likeing, one of the biggest letdown's off my life  What the fuck is this 'tards problem? the start is average but the ending is genius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogie Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 Â Just.. Great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalHeart Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 hahah that fucker was weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogie Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 Indeed. Â Ennis has a great sense of humor... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopcruz Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 I love this series, it has a special place in my heart for being damned awesome, I will say Alamo was probably my least favorite arc, at least I think it was, it's been too damn long since I read it. Thanks to Ninja for lending it to me all those years ago. Great great shit. It's what got me back into western comics in any real capacity after a rather long hiatus. Â Can someone put up the rant that Herr Starr has when they bust into DeSades place? Â I think it went "Oh there I was officer, injecting a syringeful of heroin into my eyeball while fellating a billygoat and all the sudden these men came in and started shooting everyone. My God! Aren't we even safe in our own orgies anymore?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalHeart Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 I swear I'm going to get a scanner one of these days! Â in the meantime, enjoy this sir: Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganny McVagflaps Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 More misses than hits but pretty fun none the less.... Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jont Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 (edited) ... Edited February 25, 2007 by Jont Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jables Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Uh... Come again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madman Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 I think that the preacher cast just needs a big bear hug because they are just a bunch of pussies. Life is hard, too, too hard for me, and I need a scapegoat. Cry me a freaking river Jesse. Is it easier to blame God for your troubles then it is to blame yourself. The boy named Sue blamed his father for his troubles till he got a different point of view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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