Reverend Jax Posted June 13, 2002 Author Share Posted June 13, 2002 You're right about Gambit not being explored much, but that's because he was so mysterious. They spend years and years of developing Wolverine, that's because he's that interesting. The got rid of Gambit WAY before his potential was used up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Bob Posted June 13, 2002 Share Posted June 13, 2002 And by the way, SOF, yeah, a MSG2 movie would be kinda redundant. But now that you mention it, it would be fun to see some kinda Solid Snake movie...Hmm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Jax Posted June 13, 2002 Author Share Posted June 13, 2002 Why bother with a Metal Gear movie. the game is based on generic action/espianoge movie formulas. It's like making a game based on the Super Mario movie, only more stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Bob Posted June 13, 2002 Share Posted June 13, 2002 Because they're fun to watch. God, JMT, don't you ever just watch movies for fun, or do they always have to be original, thought-provoking, or both? It's like watching Kurt Russel's Snake from the "Escape from..." movies. It doesn't matter how cliched or just plain bad the plots can get, it's still fun to watch the character. Why do you think they've made so many James Bond movies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted June 13, 2002 Share Posted June 13, 2002 For those who actually played through Metal Gear Solid 2 entirely, while the action scenes are indeed very cinematic. the plot twists by the end were both thought-provoking and confusing too many; much on existentialism, dualism, life in the digital age, etc. Â It got pretty heavy by the end, prolly why its one of my favorites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Bob Posted June 14, 2002 Share Posted June 14, 2002 I didn't like the end. I mean, the story was alright, but the scenes and the codec conversations just got way too long. I mean, they'd talk for 45 minutes, then they'd let you play for 2, then they'd talk for another hour, let you play for one more fight scene, and then they started talking again. That is one thing I never liked about the series. Sometimes people just started talking at really inappropriate times. "Oh, Rose, I'm in the middle of a firefight right now, but ok, let's talk about our first date! I'm sure the bad guys will hold their fire until we're done." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted June 14, 2002 Share Posted June 14, 2002 No, dont get me wrong, the Rose stuff was innapropriate & boring, but when the S3 program carried on about itself...i can see where most of the action fans got bored, but that shit was cool . Â Kojima didnt just want another good-lookin action/tactical game, he wanted an immense plot as well, and i really went for it, tho again i know im one of the few. Â That 45 minutes of talk was what really set the game apart, for me - now, not only was it one of the most innovative & well-done games in a long time, it actually worked on numerous levels, wish id see more of that. Â But despite as fun as the idea'd be, no i dont think it oughta be a movie, either. Â Â In X-Men 2 news, theyve announced Kitty Pride this time, made somethin of a cameo in part 1, oughta be cool. Â I read that Wolvy might have a beard for certain scenes, thought it odd but maybe there'll be some flashbacks or somethin..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Jax Posted June 14, 2002 Author Share Posted June 14, 2002 Because they're fun to watch. God, JMT, don't you ever just watch movies for fun, or do they always have to be original, thought-provoking, or both? It's like watching Kurt Russel's Snake from the "Escape from..." movies. It doesn't matter how cliched or just plain bad the plots can get, it's still fun to watch the character. Why do you think they've made so many James Bond movies? Ok, I think you misunderstood me. I didn't say it wouldn't be fun, but why not just make an original story. So much of hollywood is taking ideas from other sources and making movies abou it (Books, Comics, Video Games, Old Legends). If you're going to basic is on something that was based on ideas from movie, why not just make another generic yet original storyline? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Bob Posted June 14, 2002 Share Posted June 14, 2002 Alright, then we misunderstood each other, JMT. I don't wanna see them make the game into a movie, either. It'd be redundant. But I think it might be interesting to see the characters - Snake, Otacon...maybe even that pansy Raiden - in a movie, but with a different story than the games. Like, maybe something set in between Shadow Moses and MGS2. I don't know, I don't care. I just wanna see more Solid Snake. I've always liked the character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted June 14, 2002 Share Posted June 14, 2002 Me too, ever since the NES versions. Â So who'd you have play 'im? I vote our resident Spiffytee for Otacon, when he's in a labcoat, he really looks the part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Jax Posted June 15, 2002 Author Share Posted June 15, 2002 So who'd you have play 'im?. DUH! Brad Pitt! Just kidding I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Bob Posted June 17, 2002 Share Posted June 17, 2002 Dunno. My first instinct is to say Kurt Russell, but I know it's just cause he played Snake Pliskin. He wouldn't be right for this Snake. Hm. Hugh Jackman, maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Jax Posted June 17, 2002 Author Share Posted June 17, 2002 For some reason, I initially thought of Kurt Russell too. Naturally, I dismissed the thought immediately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Bob Posted June 17, 2002 Share Posted June 17, 2002 'S cause they kept referencing him in the game. I mean, he even went as "Pliskin" in MSG2. Guess we couldn't help making the unconscious connection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Jax Posted June 17, 2002 Author Share Posted June 17, 2002 He should play the role and make reference to himself (ala Ben Affleck in J&SBSB)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Bob Posted June 19, 2002 Share Posted June 19, 2002 Anyway...back to the topic at hand. I didn't include the soon-to-be-released ones (ie: MIB2, Goldmember, Cube 2, Halloween: Resurrection, Spy Kids 2 and Stuart Little 2) because, well...just watch tv, you'll figure out when they come out (MIB2 is the July 4th weekend, by the way). Â Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers - December 18th, 2002 Lord of the Rings: Return of the King - December 17th, 2003 Spider-man 2 - May 7th, 2004 X2 - May 2, 2003 The Matrix Reloaded - May 16th, 2003 The Matrix Revolutions - November 2003 (probably the 28th) Mission: Impossible 3 - May 21st 2004 Bad Boys 2 - August 17th, 2003 Charlie's Angels 2: Halo - June 27th, 2003 Exorcist 4:1 - July 18th, 2003 The Fast and the Furious 2 - August 1st, 2003 The Jungle Book 2 (animated) - February 7th, 2003 Mortal Kombat 3 - May 7th, 2003 Resident Evil 2: Nemesis - July 4th, 2003 Seriously, Dude, Where's My Car (christ...) - July 16th, 2004 Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines - July 2nd, 2003 Under Siege 3 - October 2004 Analyze That - December 6th, 2002 Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets - November 15th, 2002 Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban - November 2004 Indiana Jones 4 - July 4th, 2005 Star Wars: Episode III - May 25th, 2005 Die Another Day - November 22nd, 2002 Friday After Next - November 22nd, 2002 Star Trek: Nemesis (same as the Resident Evil sequel...weird) - December 13th, 2002 Jeepers Creepers 2 - February 14th (valentine's day...geez) 2003 Â Â A few other movies are announced, but have yet to have a date put on them. George of the Jungle 2 (shudder), Highlander: Source, Meet the Fockers, Tron: Killer App (formerly with the better title "Tron 2.0"), True Lies 2, Super Knight Rider 3000 (god, I hope they change that title) and Kevin Smith's Fletch prequel are all supposedly scheduled for 2003. Many of these are likely to change, of course. A few films that are scheduled for next summer have yet to even start pre-production. Some projects have probably even been canned (last I heard, True Lies 2 and Tron: Killer App have both been axed, but it's yet to be officially announced). Â And for those Disney fans, out there. Disney is releasing two more of their made-for-video sequels. Mulan 2 (sigh...they just couldn't leave well enough alone) and one interesting idea...The Lion King 1 1/2, which is supposed to be a re-telling of the original Lion King, but from the warped point-of-view of Timon and Pumbaa. Weird. Â Anyway, that's all I know, right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Jax Posted June 19, 2002 Author Share Posted June 19, 2002 Does Jersey Girl have a release date? You forgot Pthe Powerpuff Girls movie, but that's July 3na dI already started a thread for that in 'Animation'. Â Some of these are just frightening. A Tron sequel? George of the Jungle 2? What is Cube 2? I've never heard of Cube 1! Seriously, Dude, Where's My Car?!!!!!!! Â Remember back in gthe day when a movie had to be good in order for them to make a sequel? Now, Snow Dogs gets the sequel treatment! This is just obscene! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Jax Posted June 19, 2002 Author Share Posted June 19, 2002 The Lion King sorta-sequel retelling thing sounds like it has potential. Despite not having original story, sounds like an original idea. Has potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Bob Posted June 19, 2002 Share Posted June 19, 2002 Jersey doesn't have a release date, yet, but they start filming in Philly in the next month or so. And I did not forget Powerpuff Girls. I know that's comin' out, but it isn't a sequel. Yeah, the Lion King idea sounds like it could actually be very funny, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted June 19, 2002 Share Posted June 19, 2002 That list was pretty cool...didnt know there'd be sequels to Bad Boys (thought it was cancelled) or Exorcist, cool. Of course the Matrix ones get me all warm & fuzzy, but is X2 X-Men? wasnt sure. Â Weird, im actually up for Resident Evil: Nemesis after the last one surprsied me, was fun. Wait, MK? Under Siege? :ill: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Bob Posted June 19, 2002 Share Posted June 19, 2002 My sentiments exactly, IC. Most of them certainly aren't very good ideas. Bad Boys 2 was cancelled, yeah, but last I heard they brought it back. It's only announced, though, there hasn't been any work on it, yet, so it's doubtful it'll make that 2003 deadline. And the Exorcist one is actually a prequel. It's supposed to follow Father Merrin during his first exorcism. Liam Neeson is playing Merrin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Bob Posted June 20, 2002 Share Posted June 20, 2002 And, oh yeah, how could I forget? Red Dragon, the prequel to Silence of the Lambs and Hannibal, comes out October 4th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Jax Posted June 20, 2002 Author Share Posted June 20, 2002 Wasn't Manhunter the prequel to Silence of the Lambs and Hannibal? Anyway, Friday After Next sounds cool, but what will the call the forth one (The Friday following the Friday after Next)? Anyway, as far as the Jersey Girl movie, take into consideration this: Clerks, 1993; Mallrats, 1995; Chasing Amy, 1997;, Dogma, 1999; J&SBSB, 2001. Surely Jersay Girl will have to make it into theathers by the end of 2003! And they need to rerelease Clerks for it's 10th Anniversey to theaters (way too many people have never even heard of Clerks, let alone seen it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Bob Posted June 20, 2002 Share Posted June 20, 2002 Yeah, Manhunter was the original Hannibal Lecter movie. But this is the big budget remake (because not very many people saw Manhunter) with, of course, Anthony Hopkins as Lecter. The rest of the cast ain't bad, too. Ed Norton is the detective, Ralph Fiennes is the killer, Harvey Keitel is Jack Crawford, and then Emily Watson, Mary-Louise Parker, and Philip Seymour Hoffman round out the cast. It's directed by Brett Ratner of (sigh) Rush Hour fame, but from what I saw in the latest trailer, it looks like he did a really good job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Jax Posted June 20, 2002 Author Share Posted June 20, 2002 Ed Norton, Ralph Fiennes, Harvey Keitel? I would have gone with Keanu Reeves, Charlie Sheen and Rodney Dangerfield myself, but wahtever . I GUESS that COULD be OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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