The NZA Posted February 15, 2002 Share Posted February 15, 2002 Finally saw "A Better Tomorrow", that shit was fuckin good. This man is an artist when it comes to shoot-outs....my vote's goin for Hard Boiled tho. Was also curious to see how many others out there have actually seen some of these badass flicks. PS Folks, if any of you are interested in these films, i cant stress enough how good an idea it is to watch em with Spiffytee. The man caught many of the mistranslations/omissions in the subtitles, thank god someone knows Cantonese...anyway, made the film a lot cooler, trust me. Thanks again Timbo. :shoot: Chow Yun (Yuen?) Fat, bitch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JunkerSeed Posted February 15, 2002 Share Posted February 15, 2002 A couple o' mistakes, John woo didn't do a Better Tommorrow III, Tsui Hark did, damn fine movie though. And he also didn't do replacement killers, tho he did executive produce, so he probably helped a lot. My vote goes to Hard Boiled, of course. Close seconds go to Bullet in the Head, The Killer, and Better tommorrows. Hard Boiled is just one of the best action movies ever made. And I demand to know why Hard Target isn't on the list!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted February 15, 2002 Author Share Posted February 15, 2002 Whoops, few errors, thanks Junker. I knew bout Replacement Killers but i figure its close enough. Hard Target = not there cause ive never seen it, sadly...ok, should anyone vote for that one, just vote the last option & lemme know. Its a damn fine poll, anyway! :shoot: :railgun: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JunkerSeed Posted February 16, 2002 Share Posted February 16, 2002 ... I was kidding about Hard Target.... it was his first American one, and it sucked eggs due to mad censorship... and it had fucking Jean Claude Van Damme in it. 'Nuff said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted February 16, 2002 Author Share Posted February 16, 2002 Christ...scatchin that one offa my Netflix rental list, thanks for the warning! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiffytee Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 First of all, props for nick for putting up this and the wonderful pics! Chow is god, not yahve. Anyway... let's get to the itty bitty details. John Woo has directed many movies, the most memorable ones being The killer, hard boiled, bullet in the head, better tomorrow 1 & 2, broken arrow, hard target, face off and mi-2. Also directed a tv movie of once a thief, which was originally a HK flick with chow too. He has been in the production team of the big hit, replacement killers, and others that i don't know off the bat. I am going to be nitty gritty - john woo has flops (most of his early stuff and some of his amreican films.) However, when he does the good ones, they go above and beyond. First off, I don't think broken arrow and bullet in the head were that cool. (a lot of people would disagree with the bullet in the head.) Why did i vote for the killer as best movie? I really liked the strength of friendship in the movie. It showed that against many odds, there's always a friend that's got your back. It also had a lot of drama, conflicts, and betrayal. Of all his films, save face off and a better tomorrow a close two, this has gotta be the most flowing and dramatic one in my opinion. Hard boiled is second. it's got that ganster/friendship mayhem that puts 'er there with the best shoot outs of all his movies. And don't forget a better tomorrow. It didn't have the fancy shootouts, but it sure had good story. I'm not sure, but i think he wrote these movies. All the american movies don't have the asian flavor cause everything has to be 'happy' and it's someone else's script. Among his american movies, face off had the only good script. ain't much to work with. hard target, once a thief (english version; has witty jokes too :p) had some really good action sequences, which saved the movie in my opinion. broken arrow has no saving features. now why - you ask, do you have mi-2? the action sequences arent' as cool as his hk flicks and the story bites... Here's the answer. it's the first one of his movies to take advantage of dolby digital after dd was invented. none of that bs mastering dd stuff. comon, the action sequences were pretty cool. Go chow! watch out for windtalkers!!!! ps... i can only get into chinese when you get the subbed version. note - many fans of hard target are furious that the edited scenes weren't included. great, you can put in robocop's gory stuff, but can't do it for john woo... dammit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benz Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 I voted Hard Boiled. I must admit there are a few I haven't seen, but out of the ones that I have seen, Hard Boiled is definitely the best! :approve: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of Snake Posted March 20, 2002 Share Posted March 20, 2002 Same here, of what seen, Hard Boiled's the best... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint5 stimpy Posted March 20, 2002 Share Posted March 20, 2002 Has to be Hard Boiled the man is god :shoot: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of Snake Posted March 27, 2002 Share Posted March 27, 2002 Inspired by this thread I've just bought Hard Boiled on DVD, uncut and in widescreen!! It'll be the first time for me seeing it in chinese, the dubbed version I saw had shitty voice actors but even so the film shone thru, I'm looking forward to getting to watch it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiffytee Posted April 12, 2002 Share Posted April 12, 2002 i:m glad to see an open mind to these movies. again, the good chinese flicks are few and far between and the usa woo movies aren:t a consistent A. For all those guys that saw hard boiled and liked it, i recommend the killer and a better tomorrow. note ^ most, almost all of the time, the subbing sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted April 15, 2002 Author Share Posted April 15, 2002 While not a Woo flick, it does have Chow... Anyway, Spiffy tells me its the basis for Tarentino's popular "Resevoir Dogs", which most of us action fans know was a cool flick, so I'm already curious...add this to the fact that im told its one of Fat's finest moments, and I'm extrememly curious. Turns out, Spiffy has the tape & wants to watch it sometime soon, lemme know if anyone else here (local) wants to watch it with us - most likely wont be till after finals anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JunkerSeed Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 I'd be up for that, always saw that one on the shelves and wondered about it. Didn't know that bit about it having something to do with resevoir dogs but that certainly gets my attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Jax Posted April 18, 2002 Share Posted April 18, 2002 Did anyone see the simpsons a few weeks ago with the return of Artie Ziff where Homer says "...and no funny stuff, and by funny stuff I mean: hand-holding, goo eyes, misdirected woo, which is pretty much any John Woo film..." I busted up laughing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted October 17, 2005 Author Share Posted October 17, 2005 ...shame hsi US movies still havnet warranted a worthy addition to this poll, even years later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daytripper Posted October 17, 2005 Share Posted October 17, 2005 Hard boiled had to be tops for the woo-man. But as far as US flicks, want face-off one of his? And what happened to that Ninja Turtle flick he was suppose to do? THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jont Posted October 17, 2005 Share Posted October 17, 2005 Hard-Boiled by a country mile. and incidentally, in this strange and uncertain world of the internet, there are few things as nerve wracking as entering the words Hard Boiled baby into a google image search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted September 18, 2006 Author Share Posted September 18, 2006 ...shame hsi US movies still havnet warranted a worthy addition to this poll, even years later. Make that 2. Vote, whores! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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