Genso Suikoden

bishopcruz · September 17, 2005

Looks like there is another one incoming, loved the first 2, the third I didn't play much. The fourth I heard blew, but hey, the fifth looks interesting.

From Gamespot:

Konami is developing Suikoden V for the PlayStation 2, according to the latest issue of Shonen Jump magazine. No release date has been set yet, but development seems to be going well, and the game will be playable at the upcoming Tokyo Game Show September 16-18.

Suikoden V takes place in the Falena Queendom, and like previous installments, the player will recruit 108 non-player characters on his or her voyage. The player's objective in Suikoden V will be to collect pieces of the "Star of Destiny," which are scattered throughout the game.

The player takes the role of the Falena Queendom's prince, who leads a peaceful life until he is caught in an incident, which begins his adventure. An illustration in the magazine shows the prince having silver hair and a slim physique, despite being a physical fighter with a three-section staff. The magazine also revealed two other characters: Ashtert Falenas, the ruler of the Falena Queendom, who has silver hair like her son, and Leion, a dark-haired female swordfighter who works as the prince's bodyguard.

You can see a 10 minute trailer on Gamespot. Looks alright, and hey VOICE, but I'm a little annoyed in that it looks like the main character is mute again. GAH why won't that cliche DIE?

The NZA · September 18, 2005

because "enigmatic" is better than "gay-sounding".

Gonna check out the trailer soon, post pics as you find em....for those that dont know:

Suikoden I was the original PS RPG before FF VII, vasly underrated, though short. The game began the tradition of rebellions, 108 stars of destiny, building your castle via recruiting said 108 people, good music, mediocre graphics, and perhaps more than anything (for me), tragedy.

Suikoden II still stands as one of my favorite RPG's, due to its strong characterization (despite the # of players), and memorable plot. This game's still worth a lot on Ebay because its a classic.

Suikoden III, the first one for PS2, was fun, but for me, never escaped the shadow of II. While each chapter so far has connected via events happening in locales mentioned in the last game (I & II even featured shared characters....you cuold actually find the protagonist from part 1!), III tried a system of 3 different protagonists from each side of a war, uniting by fate, while the player chooses who is the "chosen one".

Again, it was good (and way long), but i actually enjoy the manga more than the game.

Ive yet to play IV. Common compliants are about its short gameplay, method of travel (apparently, a lotta time at sea), and less inspired plot. I wont speak on it till i finally play it.

Regardless, most times, reviews are lukewarm, calling the next installment "more of the same", but for me, that's a high mark, because i love this series' engine. Cant wait to hear more about V.

bishopcruz · September 18, 2005

Gotta get 2 from ya again sometime.

Also, I'm glad to hear that they seem to still be using the same composer, as the music was one of the best parts about the series.

MusicManiac · September 19, 2005

Ultimate Spider-Man

http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=B210797A

This is out on 9/26/05...I'm hyped as fuck!!! :pinch:

The NZA · September 19, 2005

I am too! and i sure hope you write a reivew, but you know....not in an RPG thread... :pinch:

The NZA · April 10, 2006

i ddint know this one was supposed to be a direct prequel to part 1...?

official japanese site, with movies, music & wallpapers

The NZA · July 10, 2008

for newt & bishop:

also, anyone hear rumors of Suikoden VI for PSP? i hope something, anything's said on that front by E3, if not TGS.

Newtype · July 17, 2008

This game was awesome.

I dare say this game was better then II.

The NZA · August 26, 2008

Looking back, Newt wasnt far off. Still opt for 2 but this one came close.

Conflicting news about Suikoden VI has been cropping up; first its supposed to be PSP, then a few places say Wii, and the latest ive read was that its coming to the DS. We can only imagine this year's Tokyo Game Show should address this, but either way, i'm happy another chapter of one of my favorite RPG series is looking to make it to some format or another.

The NZA · January 5, 2009

Suikoden VI rundown

Konami's PR Department posted:

Publisher: Konami Digital Entertainment, Inc.

Developer: Konami Digital Entertainment Co., Ltd.

Platform: Nintendo DS

Release Date: March 2009

Genre: RPG

Players: 1

Brief Game Description

Suikoden: Tierkreis is the latest iteration of the popular RPG franchise that was introduced more than 12 years ago. Suikoden: Tierkreis follows the story of the 108 Stars of Destiny, a group of magical warriors, as they challenge the almighty One King, who intends to create chaos in the universe. As the player gathers the members of the 108 Stars of Destiny, the forces for good will stand up against evil in a battle that spans the near infinite parallel worlds of the Million World universe.

This all new, epic RPG in the long running Suikoden series incorporates many innovative features to the handheld RPG genre. An active online community experience is encouraged by allowing players to send their characters on quests that other members of the Suikoden: Tierkreis community will complete for them via Nintendo WiFi Connection. As your character travels around the community and completes quests he will eventually return to your party with new abilities and treasures. This provides a new way to level up characters your characters which helps create a sense of community and provides a new way to experience RPGs on handhelds. As players progress through the story, many exotic locations and cultures will be discovered across the game’s universe of parallel worlds. With its grand adventure and larger than life scale, the story is told through rich animation sequences and gripping dialogue with voice over, which will pull the player even deeper into the world of Suikoden: Tierkreis.

Key Features

•Suikoden: Tierkreis is the first handheld Suikoden game and exclusive to the Nintendo DS.

•Suikoden: Tierkreis returns with its established gameplay system but also offers an all-new online element that offers an a rich online community experience using Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection.

•Featuring a new storyline and new variety of characters, Suikoden: Tierkreis will expand the bounds of the RPG experience in a game that will take you to many cities and across parallel worlds.

•Suikoden: Tierkreis features many cinematic events that will drive the grand storyline of the 108 Stars of Destiny as they battle to thwart the forces of evil.

pics on link. yeah, i wish it wasnt DS either, but at least its coming somewhere, right? anyway, more.

The NZA · March 10, 2010

dont get excited: this is apparently an Oblivion mod. :blink:

and finally: did you know there was a Saturn version we didnt get? i didnt.

also, there was extra stuff/dialogue! Read all about it here, mad spoilers but youd prolly not even be here if you didnt at least play through 1 (now on PSN! so good, you'll forget the DS one happened!)

The NZA · November 2, 2010

Suikoden encyclopedia

beautiful. stop toying with my heart and announce VI, konami.

The NZA · September 17, 2011

New Suikoden announced for PSP!

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ooking like Tierkreis/unrelated to the main story (we will never know @ Harmonia....), nothing to see here yet folks

Newtype · September 17, 2011

New Suikoden announced for PSP!

looking like Tierkreis/unrelated to the main story (we will never know @ Harmonia....), nothing to see here yet folks

The NZA · September 30, 2011

just wanted newt & the rest of youse to see V in HD (PCSX2!), as it's as close as we're getting to the series seeing an HD release, tragically.

Mortiis558 · September 30, 2011

Suikoden V is probably one of the most under-rated RPG's of all time. I own all of them (yes original discs and all) and I have played through them all except for the first one. I love the 108 stars of destiny, and I especially love the whole base building aspect that V did so well. Though the early story could use a little more umph to draw the players in. Or maybe it just seemed to take forever because I was trying to get all the extra characters.

As a whole the entire series is under-rated, but the first two entries on the ps2 are sort of hard entries to get into unless you are familiar with the series. 3 was good, just along side games like FFX and Tales of the Abyss, it doesn't look as pretty or play quite as easily. Same with 4, plus the amount of random sea battles is so damn high I don't think many people would put up with it to see the story through.

So they are done with the series completely now? I mean other than PSP/Vita/DS releases? Though Suikoden Teirkreis was good in it's own right. It'd be nice to see a Suikoden game with a nice big budget so they can really focus on every character and other aspects of the game and make it like the greatest, longest, most amount of playabale characters ever! Though I think they should keep it like they do and only make a certain amount of people you recruit playable. Having 108 different characters to lvl up and look after when you only use 6 at a time would be a little much. Imagine that achievement/trophy "Leveled all Stars of Destiny to Max Level" +5G/Bronze Trophy

The NZA · October 1, 2011

Suikoden V is probably one of the most under-rated RPG's of all time.

agreed! sold awful, likely after the bad buzz 4 got, sadly. so glad newt got me to revisit the series.

Or maybe it just seemed to take forever because I was trying to get all the extra characters.

god, this. i dont usually put 100 hours into Suikoden games! i wanna say i did with 3, but most of that time i was searching for some random star in a fucking forest.

Same with 4, plus the amount of random sea battles is so damn high I don't think many people would put up with it to see the story through.

yeah, 4 gets a lotta hate; i wont speak on that (or Tactics) cause i never played them, but ive been tempted to go back with say a gameshark code to lower the encounter rate or something, if possible.

So they are done with the series completely now? I mean other than PSP/Vita/DS releases? Though Suikoden Teirkreis was good in it's own right.

tragically, yes - i recall an interview with the creator saying he wanted to do another for the fans (years back) but in recent times, Konami came out and in so many words said they cant do RPGs anymore, i believe that team is gone. :sad:

also, i couldnt get past the DS one not being mainline series, it's interesting to hear it held up on its own though. did it have anything to do with the usual themes (horrors of war, etc)?

Imagine that achievement/trophy "Leveled all Stars of Destiny to Max Level" +5G/Bronze Trophy

...aw man, now you're just making me sad here. maybe that Vita one will get trophies, though?

Mortiis558 · October 1, 2011

Well honestly the only game I've gotten all the 108 Stars on was V. And that was with a walkthrough. I think my end-game totaled at like 160 hours or so. I just wanted to see a "real" ending for once.

And one day I would like to go back and play the series in Chronological order according to the lore of the series and not release dates. But that'll be in like 20 years when I have nothing better to do with my life and can take like a year off to do that.

As for Teirkris and Tactics, they are all just basically variations on a theme, well THE theme of war and politics and such. I never got more than 10 hours or so into Teirkreis though.

And while they may not go back to make a new Suikoden anytime soon, maybe we can look forward to them "re-imagining" the series like they have done with Ys and Dragonquest. Or re-releases of the old games redone to the newer standards of such and such generation. IE Not so many damned random battles. Because you KNOW one day we will get all those ps2 games we loved on a portable system. Sony is just itching for a system that will let them make money on games theyve already got.

Newtype · December 11, 2012

Holy shit!

Newtype · December 7, 2014

Announced at PlayStation Experience.

It looks like after getting rated by the ESRB a few months ago and probably millions of fan requests to get the game up Konami will finally release Suikoden 2 (and 1) to PSN and VITA on December 9th.

Visitant · December 10, 2014

So, I guess I should try this series out >.>;

Keth · December 10, 2014

Yeah i think I have the 1st game on my ps3 just sitting there... Gonna have to fire it up too.

Newtype · December 11, 2014

So, I guess I should try this series out >.>;

You never played a Suikoden game?

You have failed as a gamer.

Edited December 11, 2014 by Newtype

Visitant · December 11, 2014

Is that the qualification for failing as a gamer?

Damn.

No offence but before I knew much about the game i'd heard horror stories of everyone trying to get every character in the game like they were rare pokemon and I figured I didn't want to spend my time trying to collect all 101 dalmatians when I could just be enjoying a game.

For the record i've ever only played 30 minutes of legend of dragoon and Xenogears too.

Newtype · December 12, 2014

You don't need to collect every character to enjoy/beat the game. You only go after all them for the perfect ending.

For the record i've ever only played 30 minutes of legend of dragoon and Xenogears too.

Legend of dragoon was trash and not playing Xenogears should get you ban from hondos.

Genso Suikoden

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