Reverend Jax Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 Nick was playing Resident Evil a few nights back and topic of Strategy Guide lameitude come up. Somehwo that merged with a previous topic of conversation, branching polls on Hondo's. I told him I'd make a poll, so here it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicManiac Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 I think it Depends on the genre. Crazy deep games like Zelda, FF, and the like always call for a strategy guide. I'm for them, I don't always use them, but it's a good option when ya stuck. Jaxy - The verdict is in... Crazy Sexy Cool like a fox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalHeart Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 For games with multiple endings, I don't think it's lame to use a strategy guide. I think after going through a game once, you're justified to use a StratGuide or Cheat Codes to view alternate endings or accelerate through the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 when i was younger, id play old Final Fantasy games till i explored every corner of their 2-D worlds, sometimes maxing out my characters. i had time to re-play games then. Now, sadly, i dont. There's a lot more good games out these days, and less time. Were at a point where some RPGs can take 80+ hours (not that older ones didnt), a few things can happen: 1) the "ultimate weapon" isnt findable; i.e., youd have to have a guide caus the answer is illogical, like, be behind this barn on the corner of the world when the game's timer hits 50 hours so aliens can show up and give it to you, or worse yet 2) theres items you can only get on disc 1, no backtracking, and without them you get the gay ending, or some shit. sometimes, i wanna get through a stupid puzzle and keep the momentum so my gaming experience is enjoyable. sometimes i wanna maximize the experience so i dont leave shit out that id miss without a guide. in this instance, its my 3rd time paying for & going through Resident Evil 1, and i just need to refresh my memory to get my skills going.....stupid Capcom hustled me again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jables Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 I'm with MH. When you've finished the game once, square, it's justified. In that instance it's like watching extras on DVDs. In Nick's case he's just retarded it's more of a time constraint, hence, borderline justifyable. Using a guide 'cause you couldn't be arsed thinking for yourself just defeats the fucking purpose of playing that kind of game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 nonsense skeeter you hong kong brit, you misunderstand. ill solve my own puzzles, but when they make sense: ive no time for Myst-like illogical puzzles. Take Resident Evil 4 - ive got sheets full of stuff i jotted down for puzzles, and shorthand math for buying & upgrading weapons. I frequently used a weapons FAQ to get advice on what one gun offered vs another one once youve sunk a few hundred thousand bucks in the game to maximize it - i wanted more stopping power from my guns than accuracy or even reload time, so someone's adivce was helpful. I dont consult on how to beat bosses and such cause that woudl take the fun out of it, indeed. Now, there's Xenosaga 2. I love the story, but im really, really not into the gameply and mindless side-quests im being sent on, i just want to see where the epic plot goes. Im half-tempted to prit the whole goddamn guide out to beat it quick and hope for a better enginge in part 3. I cant recommend employing a guide for Metal Gear Solid 3 enough; there' s a ton of great easter eggs you wont find otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jables Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 ... Which are your rightful present once you've finished the fucking game!!! Why do you think they're called Easter eggs? You think they fell out've Jesus' arse? NO!! You get Easter eggs for sinning like a motherfucker & making sure Jesus wasn't an effluent pinata for nothing!! Same philosphy with games. You play them through & are rewarded for your ingenuity. Same with movies(except for Glitter. That motherfucker STILL hasn't shown me Mariah's boobies). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 no you twat, not "shit you unlock for finishing the game", more like "shit you get if you find it by accident cause its pretty goddamn random". MGS3 has a hidden mini-game youd never know about unless you happened to save & go to bed at the right point in the game. You mightve played it and never known it was there; me, i got the maximum amount of awesomeness from my game for my hard-earned money. ...except i played a borrowed game on a borrowed system, and used an online strategy guyide, while listening to mp3's and reading scanned comics. my life is a lie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jables Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 That's right bitch. You run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keth Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 (edited) Oh good the search function worked! Ok so I'm really getting into FFXV. It's fun and is reminding me more of FFXII as I go along. Which is a very good thing. But, being a good FF game I'm starting to see where I may need a strat guide for this. That's how I traditionally used to play these (frown if you must), was with strategy guide. I weened myself off a little with FFXII, but still used one to find things like the stupid ultimate spear. This game's strategy guide is only 24 bucks on Amazon... so I may jump on that. Edited December 1, 2016 by Axels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 You have the internet, Axels. Strategy guides are for fools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 sometimes they got cool art in em Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keth Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 You are both correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 sometimes they got cool art in em so does the internet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keth Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Looks good on my shelf too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Not as good as literature with actual artistic merit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 ill defend Versus Books (the early stuff - RE2, MGS, FF VII, Tekken 3 etc) to the day i die - you had a lotta Diehard GameFan alumni on those, and not only were they cheaper than shitty brady/etc ones, they often had stuff nobody knew at the time - strategies on emerald/ruby weapon, how to play as Tofu, etc. i love those things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 It's still just a Gamefaqs walkthrough that you have to pay for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 it's more well laid-out, and has pics. that's worth a few bucks! granted, i miss the ASCII art. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 You've clearly never seen some of the better Gamefaqs walkthroughs, they have indexes and subcategories and shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 ive used gamefaqs forever now - you've clearly not seen a versus guide. good quality pics showing you everything, way more thorough on secrets - take MGS, there's an entire section on where to take every photo of every ghost in the game, if you wanna do that...it's way harder to find them with just text. they also had a section with kojima talking about the military research he did on the weapons/items in the game. there's literally nothing ive seen found in that title not covered there, in detail, plus interview stuff and a poster. they really set the bar back then for making the best guides, and i've yet to see them topped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Nemo McFly Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 sometimes they got cool art in em Looks good on my shelf too Yup and yup. Some games straight-up got goodies n' features there is no way in hell you're gonna find 'em on your own. I'm talkin' stuff stuff like Resident Evil n' Metal Gear Solid. "It's extortion!" You could just google the stuff - which is why I think strategy guides are more for collectors and gamers who enjoy flipping through pages. I got me...quite a few strategy guides. You've clearly never seen some of the better Gamefaqs walkthroughs, they have indexes and subcategories and shit. I think the 'Playing w/ Power' NES Classics is a great example - you could just google the primitive 'secrets' - but it's the presentation / art and the 'collectability-factor' that a lot of gamers enjoy. The fact that google has better quality artwork than what's in the PwP book is another story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 The lot of you clearly live in a magical world where you have infinite shelf-space and enough money to waste on walkthroughs with some pictures interspersed throughout. I'm sure calling the Nintendo help-line was good for company and camaraderie but they were still a ripoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Nemo McFly Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Prima is garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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