Baytor's Horror Review Thread

[The NZA]

wait...im pretty sure i caught that scene. how long is said cut? mine was a bit over an hour and a half, i wanna say.

 

and ima be honest: i didnt make it alla way through King Kong. so yeah, claymation rat monkeys wouldve improved things. hell, the rats of Willard wouldve done it for me.

im also not sure why i was half-thinking there'd be any kind of an explanation as to why the dead can make dead babies, especially that fast. also, am i recalling wrong, or at the zoo, was there not a moment where it almost seemed like pacquita got cut/blood on her foot? i was worried she was a goner after that, mighta seen shit wrong.

[Iambaytor]

King Kong is a fucking classic and I actually plan to buy the extended version (you heard me) someday. It's just one of those movies you have to want to watch.

 

Yeah, Baby Selwynn was pretty much just something Peter Jackson pulled out of his ass and he was an annoying little shit at that. Also, yes, Paquita got blood on her shoe when the zookeeper lifted the monkey corpse but the rat monkey just ripped that monkey's arm off, it didn't bite it.

 

I also point you to the American ripoff Ed and His Dead Mother which is a complete carbon copy (I've never been able to determine whether this was intentional or not) but the Lionel-alike (named Ed) is played by Steve Bescemi and the Uncle Les character is played by Ned Beatty. I've only seen bits and pieces myself but the casting tells me I really need to download it and watch the whole thing (Bescemi movies are like pizza, even when they're bad they're still kinda good)

[The NZA]

more analogy-sharking. its been your craft for years now.

 

i dont know when ill be in the mood to try king kong again, i did give it an hour or so though. also, ill look forward to your review of the ripoff down the road. quick dumb question: should i have sen watch evil dead 2 first, then army? id love to just jump right into the latter, pretty sure she'd love it but evil dead 2 is certainly quite watchable.

[Iambaytor]

It's like the Godfather, if there is any doubt then don't bother. And I'll be the first to admit that the Skull Island section of the film can get fucking tedious but when I actually had 3 hours to kill I actually learned to appreciate the Bracheosaurus dominoes and the T-Rex fight. (The centipedes were still a bit much) What I would reccomend first is to go back and watch the original black-and-white one (Fuck the 70s one with Jeff Bridges) that was what did it for me.

 

I watched the entire Evil Dead series in reverse order so that never hurt my perception but it did hurt my appreciation for the first movie. I would have her watch Evil Dead 2 first, it's plenty fun and entertaining even if it is a bit weird and then proceed to Army of Darkness.

[The NZA]

granted im behind on your reviews, but did this one come up? read about it elsewhere, mostly mixed stuff.

[Iambaytor]

It did in fact, I gave it a 5 of 5 if I recall but it had a disclaimer. It's a movie specifically designed to make you angry. Also a lot of people are bitching because it's a shot-for-shot remake, but it's done by the same director and the reason he did it that way was because he originally wanted to make this movie but had to settle for the one he released in 97, now he has the budget and noteriety and remade his movie with a better cast, better cinematography, and actually in America like he originally wanted.

 

I defy you to not picture the antagonists as the O'Poyle brothers from Always Sunny in Philadelphia though.

[The NZA]

 

also, what's up with Eden Lake?

[Iambaytor]

Rachael, CJ, and myself watched Eden Lake a few months ago. It's a pretty good kid-kill movie and it's certainly visceral and painful to watch in a way that doesn't come off as torture porn. But between the two main characters' ineptness at anything that doesn't involve becoming horribly injured/no doubt getting every scrape so infected that surviving is a moot point and the arc of the film it will piss you off in ways that even Funny Games had a hard time doing.

[La Lindsay]

ah, shit...i just realized the girl from ghost ship is the girl from the uninvited. i really liked that one.

[Iambaytor]

Man, I missed that part of Ghost Ship, I've seen samurai movies that take less time for them to fall apart like that, of course never on that scale. Ghost Ship was balls though, that movie blew ass.

[The NZA]

ok, so Eden Lake's worth checking out. what about Vacancy?

[Choose Life]

Polanski's horror/thriller movies are definately worth watching- Rosemary's Baby,The Fearless Vampire Killers,The Tenant,The Ninth Gate

Edited April 9, 2010 by Choose Life

[Iambaytor]

I tried to like The Ninth Gate but it just didn't happen for me, I need to go back and watch Rosemary's Baby from the beginning, I've only seen it from about the halfway point. I'm concerned about my thoughts on it given I know what it's adapting and Ira Levin's dark humor rarely translates to film. I've heard good things about Fearless Vampire Killers but haven't seen it and I don't even remember The Tenant.

 

Also, Nick, Vacancy was good even though it wusses out with the ending. Don't watch the sequel.

[Lycaon]

I want to see Fearless Vampire Killers at some point.

[La Lindsay]

was the ninth gate that movie with johnny depp? if so, it sorely needs a rifftrax.

[Lycaon]

was the ninth gate that movie with johnny depp? if so, it sorely needs a rifftrax.

Yes. And yes, it does.

Edited April 9, 2010 by Lycaon

[Choose Life]

I want to see Fearless Vampire Killers at some point.

 

 

Definately worth watching!

 

Its funny but eerie at the same time

 

Plus Sharon Tate is beautiful in this movie

[The NZA]

its been a few weeks since i checked into baytor's site, but i've got an upcoming suggestion....PIRANHAS.

 

 

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9 minutes of fish & gore

[La Lindsay]

i watched human centipede and it pissed me off. ugh! i don't like rooting for the antagonist unless i'm supposed to.

[The NZA]

haha, yeah, even the trailer gave me that "hooo, these womens/mens got to be crazy stupid to have this happen" vibe.

[The NZA]

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remake trailer

[The NZA]

as good as any place to dump this, yeah?

 

"Last year's The Human Centipede was mad, bad and really quite grotesque. But this year's sequel, imaginatively called The Human Centipede II, has been rejected by the British Board of Film Classification on the basis that it is "sexually violent and potentially obscene". This means that the DVD cannot be legally supplied anywhere in the UK.

 

The original film was released, uncut, as an 18 last year. This one, however, apparently has "unacceptable material" throughout which cannot be remedied with cuts. The filmmakers have six weeks in which to appeal against the decision.

 

It's worth noting, before we get all up in arms, that this is a relatively rare decision for the BBFC, who outlined their reasons at some length and stressed that the full Board was in on this one. The full reasoning is below - but if you're of a sensitive disposition even this may be rather unpleasant.

 

"The first film dealt with a mad doctor who sews together three kidnapped people in order to produce the ‘human centipede’of the title. Although the concept of the film was undoubtedly tasteless and disgusting it was a relatively traditional and conventional horror film and the Board concluded that it was not in breach of our Guidelines at ‘18’. This new work, The Human Centipede II (Full Sequence), tells the story of a man who becomes sexually obsessed with a DVD recording of the first film and who imagines putting the ‘centipede’ idea into practice. Unlike the first film, the sequel presents graphic images of sexual violence, forced defecation, and mutilation, and the viewer is invited to witness events from the perspective of the protagonist. Whereas in the first film the ‘centipede’ idea is presented as a revolting medical experiment, with the focus on whether the victims will be able to escape, this sequel presents the ‘centipede’ idea as the object of the protagonist’s depraved sexual fantasy.

 

The principal focus of The Human Centipede II (Full Sequence) is the sexual arousal of the central character at both the idea and the spectacle of the total degradation, humiliation, mutilation, torture, and murder of his naked victims. Examples of this include a scene early in the film in which he masturbates whilst he watches a DVD of the original Human Centipede film, with sandpaper wrapped around his penis, and a sequence later in the film in which he becomes aroused at the sight of the members of the ‘centipede’ being forced to defecate into one another’s mouths, culminating in sight of the man wrapping barbed wire around his penis and raping the woman at the rear of the ‘centipede’. There is little attempt to portray any of the victims in the film as anything other than objects to be brutalised, degraded and mutilated for the amusement and arousal of the central character, as well as for the pleasure of the audience. There is a strong focus throughout on the link between sexual arousal and sexual violence and a clear association between pain, perversity and sexual pleasure. It is the Board’s conclusion that the explicit presentation of the central character’s obsessive sexually violent fantasies is in breach of its Classification Guidelines and poses a real, as opposed to a fanciful, risk that harm is likely to be caused to potential viewers.

 

David Cooke, Director of the BBFC said: “It is the Board's carefully considered view that to issue a certificate to this work, even if confined to adults, would be inconsistent with the Board's Guidelines, would risk potential harm within the terms of the VRA, and would be unacceptable to the public.

 

“The Board also seeks to avoid classifying material that may be in breach of the Obscene Publications Acts 1959 and 1964 (OPA) or any other relevant legislation. The OPA prohibits the publication of works that have a tendency to deprave or corrupt a significant proportion of those likely to see them. In order to avoid classifying potentially obscene material, the Board engages in regular discussions with the relevant enforcement agencies, including the CPS, the police, and the Ministry of Justice. It is the Board’s view that there is a genuine risk that this video work, The Human Centipede II (Full Sequence), may be considered obscene within the terms of the OPA, for the reasons given above."

 

didnt end up seeing 1, kinda tired of shock stuff reaching further & further i guess, but yeah, that's something.

[Thelogan]

The first one was not a good movie. I had roughly a dozen college kids a day come asking for it, I think it was the 2 girls 1 cup of dvds or something. It was not good. And that's not because it was shocking, I couldn't care less about that, it was just a bad movie.

 

The sequel sounds AWESOME!

[La Lindsay]

it doesn't sound as bad as a serbian film. i think i have a pretty strong stomach but that movie was just completely physically sickening and nihilistic. it was the angriest movie i've ever seen. and that film was approved by the BBFC with around 4 minutes of cuts (i watched the uncut version). so i'm interested if there's more horrific shit in part 2 than what they described in their explanation or if it's that the scenes go on for so long that the movie would be 23 minutes long with cuts.

Edited August 20, 2011 by La Lindsay
coherence upgrade.

[Iambaytor]

I think A Serbian Film and The Human Centipede II are going for different feelings. A Serbian Film was trying to make you feel like you'd just watched a snuff film even though you hadn't, HC2 is just the director of The Human Centipede going "Call my movie depraved will you, I'll SHOW YOU DEPRAVED!!" he then laughs maniacally and pets his white cat.