archangel Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycaon Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Yatta! And now for Iron Man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archangel Posted August 23, 2007 Author Share Posted August 23, 2007 I'd read what Stan Lee said, first. I think it's another 'what if' series lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycaon Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Fucking "what ifs"... Got a link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archangel Posted August 23, 2007 Author Share Posted August 23, 2007 BAM! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganny McVagflaps Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 The Hulk one is still the one to beat. What are the odds that Johnny Storm gets the AIDS? Dirty man-slut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogie Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 LEE: I knew it wasn’t really the final story and I’m sure the fans knew it, too. It was just an exercise in “What If?” and what could be more fun than that? Somehow I lost my interest when I read this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycaon Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Somehow I lost my interest when I read this... I hear ya. Fucking teases... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 haha, not a fan of Marvel's 7th Heaven? 2T: Hulk - The End was indeed great, wish others had been nearly as good, the X-Men and ones were shit. But hey, you mustve read that Punisher one, that was a solid fucking book, only overshadowed by "Punisher: The Cell" around the same time, my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archangel Posted August 30, 2010 Author Share Posted August 30, 2010 (edited) One of the Fantastic Four will die. This is some heavy shit. I'm going with Sue. Her death would be the most devastating to the group, if that's what they're going for. It's also the practical answer. Reed is the leader, and there can't be a FF without him. Also, he's too important in the MU. Ben is an Avenger. That leave Sue and Johnny. If they're going for serious shock value, Sue is the way to go. What do you all think? Edited August 30, 2010 by archangel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycaon Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 Meh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panch Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 One of the Fantastic Four will die. This is some heavy shit. I'm going with Sue. Her death would be the most devastating to the group, if that's what they're going for. It's also the practical answer. Reed is the leader, and there can't be a FF without him. Also, he's too important in the MU. Ben is an Avenger. That leave Sue and Johnny. If they're going for serious shock value, Sue is the way to go. What do you all think? You might be on to something, sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jables Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 Killing the old and bringing in a new 'Torch' would handily tidy up Chris Evans' involvement as two established MU characters. Agreed that Reed's not going anywhere, and Ben's too widespread to do an Avengers 'funeral' as well as an FF one. Sue's the easier choice for emotional but not cosmic/consequential impact. Plus Namor's due to be a villain again w/this Golden Age crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 gotta admit: ive been trying to thin out my pull list, and FF got dropped a long time back - but Hickman's an excellent writer, and i hear nothing bout good about this book. they've done stuff like this before too, no? i'd totally second ly's "meh" but again, this is Hickman, i might be down for the ride. also, yeah, i think you're on the money with Sue here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jables Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 Yeah I thought she was 'killed' during Secret Invasion. Speaking of, did they honestly do some kind of 'here's all the people we skrulls impersonated locked in a shipping container' deal with Sue, Pym & the rest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 did you finish SI? that's exactly what they did, and it was around then i lost all interest. don't get me wrong; its like when the JLA were dropping like flies in Blackest Night; you just know they're gonna hit some magic reset button at the end, but the fact that fucking nobody stayed dead (even characters long gone, like Hawkeye's chick) really took away any potential impact the arc had going. continuity-wise, it might as well have not occurred at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hakujin Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 Meh. +1 That's my short answer/most succinct reaction to this news as well. However, I rarely pass up the chance to ignite my powers of verbosity and this is no exception. I agree w/ Nick that I dropped off the F4 bandwagon a while ago when Millar ended his latest run--which by the way involved a funeral for *drumroll* Sue Richards! Well, the future version of Sue Richards. So unless the continuity fairy is going to come down and ret-con the Millar storyline, Sue Richards is either a.) not the one to die or b.) only appear to be dead and will somehow be revived/ resuscitated / resurrected in order to lead all the occupants of future 616 back to present day 616 to live on Reed's ex's nu-Earth then to experience the "true death" at the mighty hands of DOOM! I think we all know if Sue--or any member--"dies" it's only temporary anyway. My money for this particular gimmick/ storyline though is on Reed. His death would have the biggest impact on the MU and thus make for a higher profile [i.e. bigger selling] resurrection/return in a year or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jables Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 I finished the main book, which as proven when I started on the expanded tie-ins explained fuck-all. I think I made it up to around #5 or so and all those monthlies, and there were only so many Xfactor/she-hulk X-overs I could skip through before it all became too much of a chore & I gave up. Again, to my detriment for not staying with the times, I still wasn't sold on Hawkeye's ressurection until I read NA, and was already calling shenanigans on his non-skrull nature so I could have given a fuck about Mockingbird being one. And then i just got cinfused when I saw the genuine article traipsing around during DR or something. Once I finish Siege I'ma have one of you guys(probably Panch) assemble me a pull list of requisite reading so I can keep up. +1 That's my short answer/most succinct reaction to this news as well. However, I rarely pass up the chance to ignite my powers of verbosity and this is no exception. I agree w/ Nick that I dropped off the F4 bandwagon a while ago when Millar ended his latest run--which by the way involved a funeral for *drumroll* Sue Richards! Well, the future version of Sue Richards. So unless the continuity fairy is going to come down and ret-con the Millar storyline, Sue Richards is either a.) not the one to die or b.) only appear to be dead and will somehow be revived/ resuscitated / resurrected in order to lead all the occupants of future 616 back to present day 616 to live on Reed's ex's nu-Earth then to experience the "true death" at the mighty hands of DOOM! I think we all know if Sue--or any member--"dies" it's only temporary anyway. My money for this particular gimmick/ storyline though is on Reed. His death would have the biggest impact on the MU and thus make for a higher profile [i.e. bigger selling] resurrection/return in a year or so. If it means a reunion of the Atomic Knights, so be it. Illuminati is soo 2005, I want an Atomic Knights monthly!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archangel Posted December 20, 2010 Author Share Posted December 20, 2010 so, err...magic, transdimensional squid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 So unless the continuity fairy is going to come down and ret-con the Millar storyline Oh please oh please oh please. I think I'd rather see Thundra's Women's Lib pamphlet circa 1971 be canon than that 4th-wall breaking Wanted wannabe bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jables Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 so, err...magic, transdimensional squid? Plz explain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archangel Posted December 21, 2010 Author Share Posted December 21, 2010 no, you don't wanna know. Anyone else I'll tell...I think you might actually go and kill Joe Q. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jables Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 But I'm not that invested in the books or characters to begin with, and if I could forgive Doom living inside a prehistoric shark for 2000+ years I think I can deal with what sounds like a Watchmen rip-off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 aw, fuck...im behind on this one, but it was going well, arch. don't tell me we're shark-jumping just yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archangel Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 wow, i didn't see this coming: Johnny Storm dies. WARNING: THE FOLLOWING ARTICLE CONTAINS SPOILERS FOR FANTASTIC FOUR #587 By Ben Morse The tragic saga of “Three” has come to an end in the pages of FANTASTIC FOUR #587—and The Human Torch has fallen. John Storm sacrificed himself so that his niece and nephew as well as his best friend, The Thing, could escape the Negative Zone. It’s a moment series writer Jonathan Hickman knew about a long time ago. “Day one, word one,” he says of when he became aware of Johnny’s imminent demise. “When [Marvel Senior Vice President of Publishing and FANTASTIC FOUR editor] Tom [brevoort] asked me to pitch the book, and then later on when I gave him my detailed arc-by-arc, issue-by-issue breakdown, this was always there. I think if you go back and read all the [issues] I’ve done up to this point you can kind of see how it has led to this.” Though members have come and gone for brief periods over the team’s 50 year history, the Fantastic Four has always reverted back to the family unit of Reed, Sue, Johnny and Ben. With one of these four pillars now gone, Hickman promises inevitable change at the very core of the FF. “Johnny was, in simplistic terms, the ‘id’ of the team,” he explains. “He represented the child-like, more innocent view of the world. He stood in direct contrast to the world ‘as it really is.’ Now, with him gone, and with everything underlined by Reed’s vision of ‘how the world should be,’ his demise both heightens the need for that future to come to pass as well as leaves it in doubt.” With a history stretching back to 1961 and five decades among Marvel’s most popular and recognizable heroes, the Torch leaves behind a significant legacy and an absence that will be felt by fans as well as the characters. “Jack [Kirby] and Stan [Lee] created these characters; if I didn’t feel like I had a responsible story to tell—one told with great effort, craft and possessing a book-specific ‘moral’ center—I would have pitched this and, honestly, it wouldn’t have made it through the room during the creative retreats,” says Hickman. “I thought [Johnny’s sacrifice] should be noble, self-sacrificing and most of all I thought it should be heroic,” he continues. “I think Johnny was most certainly all of those things.” While The Human Torch may be gone, the journeys of Marvel’s First Family march ever forward, with Hickman and artist Steve Epting planning their adventures well into the future. “The next issue of FANTASTIC FOUR, the last one, #558, follows the rest of the team through the month following Johnny’s death,” previews the writer. “Lots of things happen in that issue that not only cover how each of the family members are being affected, but also hints at the massive events right around the corner. “This is not an ending.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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