crimsonfire Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Damon was a terrible choice for the Bourne movies. As a die hard fan of the Ludlum books I didnt enjoy the Bourne movies one bit. They deviated from the storyline so much to the point where it was pretty much a new fucking story and Matt Damon was wooden and uninteresting in the role. As movies on their own yeah I suppose they were OK but my extreme stubborness and bias in favour of the books will never let me like them. They just fucked with the books way too much. Havent read the Bond books but I grew up watchin the movies and I love them. After Goldeneye though things got real shit, real fast. Still havent seen Casino Royale though. So to summarise: Bond movies = Good Bourne movies = Bad Bond books = ??? Bourne books = Excellent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan_Snikt!! Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 All three bourne movies were excellent, it had all the elements a good action film would need... unfortunately, unlike bond, bourne will end with the three movies, or will it??? casino Royale was different than the rest but was a needed refresh of the bond franchise, which was already in its last leg before casino. i have never been a fan of bond, but if future films continue in the way of casino, then that will surely change my perception of Bond. VS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilsAdvoc8 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 where is Ethan Hunt? I mean its Bond all the way (right on Rev!) but if we are gonna go outside the parameters, Wolverine was like a spy and he' kill em all. If its laughs you want then its gotta be the SPY who Shagged me (not me but...er well you know...) Austin Power-vich! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losifer Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 You know...I've watched a few Bond movies, but I never really grew to like any of them. From Connery to Moore to Brosnan...nothing. I haven't seen Royale so maybe this will do it? Idk. I did see all three Bourne movies and boy...not only can he drive, he can survive. Good flix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acalis Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 i guess, i thought we were going for Spy movies, like uh, The Saint. It was Skeeter's idea to make it a poll, I only just decided to make it a reality. I just thought I'd add a few more selections besides Bourne and Bond is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Bob Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 All three bourne movies were excellent, it had all the elements a good action film would need... unfortunately, unlike bond, bourne will end with the three movies, or will it??? Damon and Greengrass have joked that they're planning a fourth Bourne movie entitled The Bourne Redundancy. And crimson, let's be fair here. You're saying the Bond movies started going downhill after Goldeneye? Come on, man. I know Die Another Day was shit, but it wasn't Diamonds Are Forever level shit. Or Moonraker level shit. Or You Only Live Twice level shit. Or A View to a Kill level shit. I'm a huge Bond fan, to the point where I even enjoy the worst movies of the series for what they are. But I would not say the nadir of the franchise came anytime during the Brosnan era. Now go watch Casino Royale right now. The power of Bond compels you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 He makes childish puns. THat's not suave. The names of the Bourne movies/books ARE puns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtizl Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 Inspector Gadget FTW even though he also isnt a spy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archangel Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 I don't know. Bourne has that fighting edge while Bond has the financial backing/tools/bad ass person to get just about anything done. But Bauer has this dogged determination and has seen so much shit and done worse that he might just have people's head explode by being too close to 'em. Bauer it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtizl Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 Bond lacks skill. Hes like Batman. Without his gadgets he'd be nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the division of joy Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 i think this thread deserves an award for seeing jax throw a hissy fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jont Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 buuuuuuut ok... Bourne is my pic. but Bourne isnt a spy, he is just an assassin. Though you could call him a sectet agent, which is what this thread's about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archangel Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 Bond lacks skill. Hes like Batman. Without his gadgets he'd be nothing. are you forgetting about the martial arts expertise? Batman is more than just his gadgets. His gadgets is how he copes against super villains or people with powers. But one on one, he kicks ass with nothing but skill. Don't mess with the Goddamn Batman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilsAdvoc8 Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 Maxwell Smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 You know...I've watched a few Bond movies, but I never really grew to like any of them. From Connery to Moore to Brosnan...nothing. I haven't seen Royale so maybe this will do it? Idk. I did see all three Bourne movies and boy...not only can he drive, he can survive. Good flix. Finally! I've found another one! Yeah From Russia With Love was the only one I would watch more than once and I like that one in the same way I like Scarface, I don't really care for the movie but I could watch Connery play Bond all day. And DA8, Ethan Hunt isn't hear because he's a fucking pussy. Jim Phelps was the cool MI Agent, Hunt is just Tom Cruise on way too much coke and wearing glasses to make him look smart. Also, Maxwell Smart should be in place of Inspector Gadget, though Inspector Gadget was voiced by Smart's Don Adams and was clearly ripping Get Smart off Inspector Gadget is not a spy. He's an inspector. Hence why he's named Inspector Gadget. Because you go putting inspectors in then we gotta throw in Jacque Cleaseu then that'll snowball out of control into other forms of law enforcement including Inspector Jake Gittes, Detective "Dirty" Harry Callahan, Detective John McClane, Riggs and Murtaugh, Axel Foley, Sgt. Nicholas Angel, Sheriff Buford T Pusser, Paul Kearsy, John Rambo, El Mariachi, Mr. Blonde, The Bride, Cameron Poe, Harley Davidson and the Marlboro Man, Snake Plisskin, Neo, Clu, Captain Mal Reynolds, Darkman, Conner McLeod, The T-800, Robocop, Alien, Predator, and fucking Big Bird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signal08 Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 ohhh, I thought the glasses were for cum blocking purposes... ever look at the cover of MI1 then look at MI2 and MI3??? clean cut close cropped to long haired fabio activist... never understood that cuz it isnt like he grew the hair out to be 'uncover covert disguising' ah anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 ohhh, I thought the glasses were for cum blocking purposes... ever look at the cover of MI1 then look at MI2 and MI3??? clean cut close cropped to long haired fabio activist... never understood that cuz it isnt like he grew the hair out to be 'uncover covert disguising' ah anyways. That was meant to be his "No really, I'm straight" look. If you'll recall George Michael did the exact same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilsAdvoc8 Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 Scientology rules you cock bites. Plus his old ass fucked Katie Holmes and impregnated her with L.Ron Hubbards baby that is pretty dastardly in the scope of things and should be respected. Limps such as yerselves wouldn't understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 Bourne prequel, without Damon? looking back at this contest: both Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace were good (way better than 007's been in years, partly because of The Saint/Bourne/24 etc i figure), part of me wants to say i enjoyed the Bourne shit more in certain ways, though. no fault of the new bond, he's fantastic, as is the action/racing, but man, the plot can kinda meander or just be forgettable in its final acts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 The Top 5 things I don't want to see in action movies anymore: 1. Parkour - It was cool for a minute, now please stop 2. Tiny Cars Racing Through Tiny European Alleys - I saw The Italian Job, both of them, I'm good now. Thank you. 3. That Bleached-Out HD Cam Style - I don't know why anyone ever thought it was a good idea to make your movie blurry and overexposed like an Xbox 360 game, but it's not. 4. Shaky Cam - NO! 5. Overblown Kung-Fu Sequences - Unless you can pull of something original or interesting, I don't want to watch you kick a bunch of people for 20 minutes. That... pretty much highlights my qualms with both series' as of late. I'll admit that Taken was guilty of 3 and 4 but at least Liam actually knocked people out when they hit them and didn't play some sort of bizarre live action version of Streets of Rage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 /disagree. damn, man. i watch modern kung-fu flicks for like half of that list. i also skipped the italian jobs. i dont normally go for racing scenes, but the bourne ones were usually top-notch. ps Liam "knocks people out" in Taken for the same reason his fights were in shaky-cam in Batman Begins - he's a fantastic actor, but he's quite old and not really a fighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 /disagree. damn, man. i watch modern kung-fu flicks for like half of that list. i also skipped the italian jobs. i dont normally go for racing scenes, but the bourne ones were usually top-notch. ps Liam "knocks people out" in Taken for the same reason his fights were in shaky-cam in Batman Begins - he's a fantastic actor, but he's quite old and not really a fighter. You name me one car chase scene that's as good as anything if you've seen in a Steve McQueen movie... no I'll make this easy, name me one good chase scene you've seen that's as good as say the one in The French Connection or To Live and Die in LA and I'll concede my point. I'm not talking about Ong Bak or anything that makes it interesting with sliding under cars or punching people with dynamite sticks, I'm talking Jason Statham spends an entire scene fighting 3 guys who he should have just been able to kill/knock-out at a minute a pop. Instead he spends his time fighting them with his shirt, or a firehose, or sliding around shirtless in a puddle of oil. If your opponent gets back up: you're doing it wrong. That may be the case but I think the same would have happened if they'd gotten a younger more spry actor. The worst use of this had to be in the condemned in the most over-long fight scene I've seen in ages between Vinnie Jones and Steve Austin (I think we know why) I don't care that these people are glorified stuntmen that have a grasp of acting, I don't want to see wire fighting and fight coreography that's essentially just hitting the same group of people several times, Kill Bill even managed to make sword fighting boring. Let's look at an example, shall we? They're fucking playing patty cake! Sonny Chiba would be ashamed. Of course there are acceptions to this rule: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 wait, wait. i said i didn't see the Italian Job(s), for good reason. Bourne, on the other hand - i wanna say part 2 had a chase at least on par with Ronin, which is good in my book. no, its not Bullit. things which are not Bullit will always yield this answer. Damon also uses some improv/krav maga shit but it doesnt necessarily go on forever; instead, he takes out 3-5 guys in rapid succession and keeps moving, over and over. the scene (think in the same movie) where he handles the enemy agent with a newspaper and then uses it in the toaster to blow the place up in his wake was a good example of doing the shit right. /agree that Equillibrium had been way oversold by the time i finally saw it (wasnt really memorable for me, even the choreography), /disagree about Kill Bill. heathens dare not speak woo-ping's name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelogan Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 You name me one car chase scene that's as good as anything if you've seen in a Steve McQueen movie... Personally, I think the one in Short Time is pretty awesome and often overlooked. Of course these aren't tiny cars in tiny alleys, they're big cars on big roads (mostly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 You name me one car chase scene that's as good as anything if you've seen in a Steve McQueen movie certainly better than the chases in Papillon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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