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as far as brosnan, he was a good fill in goldeneye and it was a very good movie, and I liked him as bond, but he wasnt the best bond. I would have to go with Connery.

 

I think brosnan being a good bond but not a great bond isnt understood. Good and great are two diff things so respect the words for what they are. He wasnt a 'bad' bond. I think goldeneye being such a good overall movie, is what carried brosnans bond career... but he was still a good bond.

 

Late addition...

 

and dalton was not a better bond than brosnan. My opinion of course.

 

*reason for edit, cuz the adding another post so soon after your last post jacks up all spacing and all... so edit it was.

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The important thing is that we are staying on topic in this Wolverine solo movie thread.

 

I think Val Kilmer was the better Batman among Keaton and Clooney (though B&R sucked hard, Clooney would not have been bad if EVERYTHING else had been different), but I think Bale is better than all three of them. It could just be that everything about Batman Begins (and probably The Dark Knight) was so spot on that I'm saying that, his role being the best written Wayne/Bats of the four actors. All that said, my opinion of this is the same as it was when I voted in this poll, almost 6 years ago. Bale takes third place to Kevin Conroy and Adam West.

 

As for Bond, not even a mention of the new Bond, Daniel Craig?

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I'll never understand how Connery is so bulletproof when it comes to Bond. Did you guys just stop watching after Goldfinger or something? Yes, Connery was great in his first few Bond films (even if he stumbles around a little in Dr. No, that's to be expected) and he gets credit for inventing the character for the screen but he also practically slept his way through more than half of the Bond films he starred in - Thunderball, You Only Live Twice, Diamonds Are Forever...don't even get me started on Never Say Never Again. Those were some of the crappiest films in the series and they all starred Connery. And worse yet, they all starred Connery looking like he'd rather be off playing golf. If you wanna say Connery in From Russia With Love was the best Bond, ok, but don't blanket statement the whole thing like the guy could do no wrong. As far as consistency goes, I'd give it to Brosnan any day. Even when he was in absolute shit, you could tell he was bringing his A game.

 

goldeneye > pretty much everything since moore & "the living daylights"

 

Dalton was in The Living Daylights. You're basically just saying "GoldenEye > License to Kill".

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Yeah. it was too... AWESOME!! for your fragile minds. No seriously though, Spiderman 2 was cinematic Heaven, but Spiderman 3 was finding the sky plasma screen in the games room of said heaven, and the PS-Wii-60 on 1080p all day. And there's never a fight over who wants to play what because it's the fucking sky, and the internet connection is bitching, so you can beat bitches down all day long with Swords on Narrows, or even Hammers in something like Sanctuary. And everyone's a Commander... :SIGH: Spiderman 3 was just tops.

 

EDIT-- This was written in response to posts about... 3 pages back. Now you're talking about bond. The fuck? Casino Royale was the first bond film I watched that didn't make me wanna gouge my eyes out with a spoon.

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Dalton was in The Living Daylights. You're basically just saying "GoldenEye > License to Kill".

 

*sigh* i think youve corrected me on that like 3 times in this board's history, but it still doesnt take. good call, and yes, i meant that.

 

skeet: spidey 3 was a letdown. denial gets you nowhere; i made my peace with X3 and you should do this here.

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from wiki

 

* Troye Mellet plays the young Logan. David Benioff's first draft depicted the young Logan being bullied.[7] Casting directors cast Mellet after seeing him sing at the Channel Seven Perth Telethons, and he was accepted after sending in an audition tape.[8] Kodi Smit-McPhee was originally cast in the role, when filming was originally beginning in December 2007,[9] but he opted out to film The Road.[10]

bullied wolverine? no origins then

 

also

 

Lynn Collins as Kayla Silver Fox:

Danny Huston as William Stryker:

Will.i.am as John Wraith / Kestrel:

i had no idea who will.i.am was til i googled him.

the black eyed peas guy?

 

and finally

Sequel

Hood speculated that there could be a sequel, which may be set in Japan.[31] Such a location was the subject of Claremont and Miller's series, which was not in the first film as Jackman felt “what we need to do is establish who [Logan] is and find out how he became Wolverine".[22] The inclusion of Deadpool and Gambit also leads to the possibilities of their own spin-offs.[11]

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Bullied young Logan? Uh, I'm not as well versed in X-Men canon, but it's one of the staples of Wolverine is that his regenerative healing keeps him from aging at the same rate regular people do combined with his memory being fucked with mean that it's unknown just how old he is? Is it revealed how old he is in some official X-canon? Is it blasphemy to place his childhood in a historic context?

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from wiki

talking about the book origin

The series reveals that Wolverine was born James Howlett, the son of rich plantation owners in late 19th Century Canada, and has long suffered from various allergies. He is a sickly child so his loving father, John, brings an orphaned girl named Rose up from the town to be his companion (Rose is red-haired which some take as a reference to Jean Grey, with whom Wolverine sometimes showed something of an obsession). The two children also often play with Dog Logan, son of the Howletts' cruel groundskeeper, Thomas Logan (who looks a lot like the fully-grown Wolverine). This friendship is spoiled by the tension between the boys' fathers centering on James' mother, Elizabeth, who went mad after her first son, John, died under mysterious circumstances years earlier. It is hinted throughout the series that Wolverine's elder brother was a mutant himself with powers similar to his own. Both his mother and grandfather allude to this, and the marks on Elizabeth's chest may have come from John's claws.

 

Dog, over the next few years, becomes increasingly like his father, and his misdeeds become so violent that he and his father are expelled from the manor. Thomas returns for the purpose of robbing the Howlett estate and to convince Elizabeth to leave with him (it is implied that they had an affair and that Thomas may be the biological father of Elizabeth's sons).

 

John Howlett enters the bedroom after hearing noises. Thomas kills John Howlett with a shotgun blast in front of all three children and Elizabeth. The horror of his father's death causes James' powers to manifest for the first time, and he uses his claws to kill Thomas and injure Dog, before lapsing into shock. Elizabeth, surprisingly, cradles the body of Thomas Logan rather than that of her husband. After a few moments, Elizabeth, with her shallow grip on reality shattered, picks up Thomas' shotgun and kills herself.

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I didn't read the wiki stuff, but yeah, Young Logan being bullied is perfectly in line with Origin, and gives me hope that this movie may not entirely suck(as they're not hyping him as being a claw-weilding bad-arse who scored his mama's thigh with a lit cigar as he rode a harley out her womb).

 

And Baytor-Completely agree. I didn't even understand ther neccesity of introducing Gambit into the Ultimate Xmen.

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