Benz Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Saw the trailer with The Dark Knight movie. Looks bad as hell, and this one, at least from the trailer, looks like it's going to take place during the actual war... Here's the official site It's scheduled out for May of '09. Hopefuly it's about the war and doesn't disappoint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Jax Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Yep, still hasn't changed my tune on it looking like a big shiny chromed piece of shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Bob Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Yep, still hasn't changed my tune on it looking like a big shiny chromed piece of shit. That's not really fair. It doesn't look like anything right now, that trailer didn't show us a thing. And it still doesn't change my tune that it's about time we get to see the goddamn war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 It showed some okay at best CGI and we're getting an Arnold look-a-like to play the T-800. Not to mention James Cameron's name isn't attached to it. I feel the same way about this movie that you feel about The Spirit (though the Spirit didn't take the kind of blow that Terminator did with Terminator 3) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benz Posted July 18, 2008 Author Share Posted July 18, 2008 And it still doesn't change my tune that it's about time we get to see the goddamn war. Amen to that everything until now has been to prevent the loss of the future war, and the importance of winning the wat, rumors about it, etc. But now finally we get to see the actual war Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 I always found the cool thing about the war was that we never did get to see it more than a bunch of exoskeletons and a ship flying at a group of humans soldiers. The explosive finale of Terminator 3 destroyed that for me and honestly they can't make a war in this film that will ever match up to how awesome it was in my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Bob Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Likely not, but I'm more interested to see them give it a shot than to watch a fourth two hour long chase scene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 I'm not saying I want more of the same, I just felt there was more that could've been done with the formula, something new, something interesting. Instead we'll have what I'm sure will be the equivalent of Robocop 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benz Posted July 18, 2008 Author Share Posted July 18, 2008 What else could have been done with the same formula? Terminator's had a good run, but now I wanna see the war, even if it's shit, which from the trailer, to me, it looks good. But at least now, even if it's visual diarreah, I'll know what the war was like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 What else could have been done with the same formula? Terminator's had a good run, but now I wanna see the war, even if it's shit, which from the trailer, to me, it looks good. But at least now, even if it's visual diarreah, I'll know what the war was like. Robots and human beings shooting at each other, some with bullets, others with lasers. People fall down, they die. This isn't going to be some epic Lord of the Rings shit. And there was still more they could do with the formula, The Sarah Conner Chronicles is proof of that even if it is poorly executed and the acting is sub-par (but it's a TV show, so that's to be expected) I mean seeing as two Terminators have failed in the past Skynet could've sent a few dozen back to kill John Conner or my idea of having the T-1000 be the new friendly Terminator as clearly Arnold has run his course and there could've been a lot done there. That and I already heard the big plot twist at the end of this movie and it ruins the whole series. By some miracle of creation they're going to make something worse than Terminator 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benz Posted July 18, 2008 Author Share Posted July 18, 2008 I see your point, but for me the formula has gotten old. Time to end it either with a bang or with a turd. Both feel good just in different ways. One gives you a sense of awe, and is amazing (it could be argued at times that both are) The other, you feel better once it's finally over, and you can say "Well I feel better now that that's over with." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbie Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 (edited) Just saw it. Like with Wolverine, one of the surprising shortfalls of this movie was the effects. I've always been in the story first, effects second camp, but in a movie like this, story is already just a place holder and you accept that. Which means effects become numero uno. Like the trees burning when conner is trying to kill Marcus. Screamed out "SET!". And the scene with Common and Bale waiting on the mountainside screamed out "BLUE SCREEN!" And the Tow truck on the bridge scre- Well, you get the idea. And there was a lot of editing wher eyou could sense they cheated on the effects budget. I don't know if I'm too familiar with movie techniques for my own good. It's a possibiity. But, for instance, when they had Bale shooting at 'Arnold' on the metal platform, you had a shot of them squaring off, a shot of Bale firing his gun and then a cut to a shot of Arnold getting hit. So, They saved money because the only effect they had to do was an isolated shot of the T-800 getting hit. But it takes away from the spectacle of the whole thing. And there were a couple other places where this kinda thing happened, though I can't remember specifically. Mostly this thing held together for me as movie though. I don't feel cheated of my ticket price. ----------------------------------- A word on the acting: Bale needs to make better choices. He seemed to still be channeling Batman here half the time. I found the scenes with him and the Sarah COnner tapes to be his best scenes because he stopped trying to be Mr. Action Hero. His scenes with Worthington were good too. Also a bit erotic with the chains and stuff, but that says more about me than the movie. Bryce Dallas Howard. We're meant to believe that this is mankind's last desperate hour and she still has time to put on so much lipstick and face powder that she seems less human than the T-600s? I mean, I let Moon Bloodgod's perfect hair slide when she shook it out of the helmet because, well you don't argue with people named Moon Bloodgod, but Howard lookedout of place and didn't hold her own. Worthington was pretty good. Seemed to be taking this seriously as an actor. Yelchin was a good Kyle. I'm fed up of the silent child characters in movies who have become such a cliche, so I was kinda put off whenever the Star character was onscreen. Arnold was his usual self.* *yes, I know. =---------------------------------------------------- Some spoileriffic comments to end with... OK, so I think most of you are aware that this movie was not meant to end the way it did. A while back word leaked that the Wright character was supposed to take over as John Conner after the real Conner dies. So basically, that metal through the chest was supposed to kill him. After the leak they re-shot the ending. I'm sorry they changed it. Having Marcus just lay down and die seemed lacking. What's more, I'm angry at the studios for changing this, because before they changed it, people were putting spoiler tags on the Wright->Conner thing. After the ending was changed, people decided that it wasn't a spoiler to mention that Wright was supposed to replace Conner and so they just let that particular plot point drop everywhere and that DID spoil the movie for me, because that idea lay at the back of my mind the whole time. And the movie seems to miss the ending too. Like, the hunt for Kyle Reese was the basic plot of this movie and if you think back to the first movie, Kyle mentions that John found him wandering the wastelands and taught him how to fight. In this movie we have Marcus and Kyle meet in the ruins of L.A. and Marcus teaches him things from Day One. There's the scene where Skynet explains how Marcus has succeeded in killing John Conner. Those scenes really only make dramatic sense of Marcus will become Conner. So my question is this: Would you have minded if they kept the ending where Marcus replaces John? That's in either case, whether you know it before you saw the movie or not. Edited May 23, 2009 by Jumbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 =----------------------------------------------------Some spoileriffic comments to end with... OK, so I think most of you are aware that this movie was not meant to end the way it did. A while back word leaked that the Wright character was supposed to take over as John Conner after the real Conner dies. So basically, that metal through the chest was supposed to kill him. After the leak they re-shot the ending. I'm sorry they changed it. Having Marcus just lay down and die seemed lacking. What's more, I'm angry at the studios for changing this, because before they changed it, people were putting spoiler tags on the Wright->Conner thing. After the ending was changed, people decided that it wasn't a spoiler to mention that Wright was supposed to replace Conner and so they just let that particular plot point drop everywhere and that DID spoil the movie for me, because that idea lay at the back of my mind the whole time. And the movie seems to miss the ending too. Like, the hunt for Kyle Reese was the basic plot of this movie and if you think back to the first movie, Kyle mentions that John found him wandering the wastelands and taught him how to fight. In this movie we have Marcus and Kyle meet in the ruins of L.A. and Marcus teaches him things from Day One. There's the scene where Skynet explains how Marcus has succeeded in killing John Conner. Those scenes really only make dramatic sense of Marcus will become Conner. So my question is this: Would you have minded if they kept the ending where Marcus replaces John? That's in either case, whether you know it before you saw the movie or not. Well to be fair, we knew it was coming, The T-800 flat out said in T3 that he killed John Connor and sadly of all the movies in the series TS decided to pull from it took the most cues from T3. Also the way it happened was far less schlocky than Marcus peeling off John's skin and going "Look at me, I'm John Connor! Everything is fixed!" That scene would have worked for one of the old Terminator films but this film did not feel like a Terminator film and thus something that fucked up would just seem like AI ending with Robocop showing up and killing everybody. But yeah, between the fan references, the fact that it seemed to only consider T3 worth canonizing, and the fact that they changed the rules and retconned just about everything it was a good movie. I still don't consider it a worthwhile sequel to T2 but it did serve to make the Matrix sequels look that much fucking worse by comparison. I did however like how they made the exoskeletons scary again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsmithx Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 this series ended with T2 and we just need to live with that. That said I always skipped T3 cause I heard it sucked ass, is it worth going back to watch it? Movie wasn't a waste of my time just not as good as it could have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 In a word, no, Terminator 3 is shit. It brings the action but that's about it. It's like a cheaper dumber re-hash of T2. If James Cameron wouldn't have slept around on Linda Hamilton we might actually fucking have a good Terminator 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 To anyone who complains about the original ending being taken out, please read this I think we see that the right choice was made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsmithx Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 so after reading that I'm sure that the series ends at T2 for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 so after reading that I'm sure that the series ends at T2 for me. Just change John Connor's name to "Neo" and pretend that the Matrix sequels were actually this movie and you should be okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Bale on Terminator: Salvation - "It’s a Great Thorn in My Side" Quote “I said no three times. I thought that the franchise…I went ‘Nah, there’s no story there,’” Bale said. “There’s a perverse side to me, where people were telling me that, there’s no way on God’s Earth that I should take that role, and I was thinking the same thing. But when people started verbalizing that to me, I started to go, ‘Oh really? All right, well watch this then.’ So there was a little bit of that involved in the choice.”Bale said “Salvation” ended up being hurt by “an unfortunate series of events,” including both the 2007–08 Writers Guild of America strike and the departure of Jonathan Nolan. The screenwriter started working on the script, which Bale called a “wonderful” version, but had to abruptly leave the project because of a proper commitment.“It’s a great thorn in my side, because I wish we could have reinvigorated [the franchise],” Bale said. “And unfortunately, during production, you could tell that wasn’t happening. It’s a great shame.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Nemo McFly Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 My face hurts so much - LOL!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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