Reverend Jax Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Been hearing about this one for a while, and I was wondering what kind of tone it would take. Thsi trailer begins to answer that question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 that actually looked interesting. sorta odd to do this while he's still in office, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycaon Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 that actually looked interesting. sorta odd to do this while he's still in office, no? Odd indeed (but then, is it going to mostly be pre-presidential?). Wonder when it'll be coming out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Jax Posted July 30, 2008 Author Share Posted July 30, 2008 It will be released October 17th, and word is they plan on running ads for it opposite McCain campaign ads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalHeart Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Definitely looks interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archangel Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 2004 had Farenheit 9/11, 2008 has W. Good money says it's going to be a hacket job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Jax Posted July 30, 2008 Author Share Posted July 30, 2008 Did you think Nixon was a hacket job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Bob Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 What are you saying? You think an Oliver Stone movie might not be entirely flattering to the President? Holy heavy insight, Batman! What kills me about this movie is the cast. This is the kinda weird all A-list cast that people would come up with...well...on a Hondos-like internet board. But it should be a crime to do something like that to Thandie Newton. A fuckin' crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archangel Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 What are you saying? You think an Oliver Stone movie might not be entirely flattering to the President? Holy heavy insight, Batman! No, i think Oliver Stone spends too much time in Fantasy Land and likes to push his own agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drifter Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 This looks like it's either going to be some sappy redemption story that makes Bush seem like some triumphant superman or some wasted ball of wax with way too many daddy issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maldron Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 No, i think Oliver Stone spends too much time in Fantasy Land and likes to push his own agenda. And that's different from every other movie how? Everybody has their own agenda and their own vision and they use their movies to show it. This guy isn't exactly any worse because his agenda and vision have a political bent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archangel Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 No, but political bents have a nasty tendencies of making things up, portraying things in a specific light and using other methods which stretch credulity and become dishonest. Stone has a history of doing t his kinda stuff. Edit: Don't get me wrong, i don't doubt the movie wont be entertaining...as a general rule, though, I don't like movies that shove their agenda down my throat, particularly ones that make shit up as they go along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maldron Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Eh, I get that, but I live in a world where I'm not sure whether or not the News is giving me a fair version of events. I'm not gonna give a movie a bigger influence. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Bob Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 No, but political bents have a nasty tendencies of making things up, portraying things in a specific light and using other methods which stretch credulity and become dishonest. Stone has a history of doing t his kinda stuff. Big deal, he's not a documentarian. Every other fictionalized film about a reallife figure is guilty of the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archangel Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Again, true, but you didn't see my reaction to Troy. It's just a thing I don't like. Pointing to other examples only shows more things I don't like lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Bob Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Braveheart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archangel Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 ok, you got me on one exception. touche, Mr. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Bob Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archangel Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 I want to hate you, despise you, loathe you...but you make it so damned HARD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Jax Posted October 27, 2008 Author Share Posted October 27, 2008 Saw this yesterday. It was really good, and leaves you thinking about the movie for a good while after you leave the theater. The Chronology was fractured, jumping back and forth between young W and President W. But not like Tarentino fractured, the past stuff went in order, and the president stuff went in order, it just went back and forth between the two periods. Alot was skipped over, most shockingly the 2000 election. The movie doesn't portray anything between the time he decided that God wants him to run for President and a cabinet meeting after the success of the invasion of Afghanistan where they're talking about going into Iraq too. In fact, the only issue of his presidency that is covered is Iraq. As many reviewers have noted, the movie paints a pretty sympathetic and interesting picture of Bush. You have a hard time hating Bush even if you went in doing so. Of course, you don't admire him either. The movie is really at its core about how W's relationship with his father effects and drives him. For those wondering about accuracy, Scott McClellan, who worked with Bush from 1999 in Texas until 2006 in Washington, said it was pretty accurate, though not dead-on. I'm personally curious what Colin Powell's opinion is, specifically of the internal meetings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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