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Wolvie's claws can't hurt superman. Not with Wolvie's strength. Thor with adamantium could mess him up but not Wolverine.

And I say again. Superman doesn't have to kill the runt to win. Picture this: Wolvie is upside down in the air, while superman holds him aloft by one ankle. Checkmate. After that IF he still wants to... drop him in a volcano, Deep six him in an ocean. Use him as a baseball bat for those annoying vultures that get in Supes's way...

There is no contest here Carlos. Your original reasoning for saying this was a close fight was Supes's reticence to kill. I say that doesn't matter. It's still too much like a rubber ball and a brick wall.

Wolvie is cool and hard. But he has his limits. That's exactly the reason that they had him fight Galactus. To show that He was not a cosmic being.

Nick, Akhtar, Carlos.... vote already.

He didn't go crazy after killing Doomsday. He understood and made a decision that he'd have to kill to defend himself.

and he can make that decision again. Sure he might try to restrain wolvie, but the minute he got seriously hurt and saw that the berserker had no reason (He decided to kill Doomsday cuz there was no reasoning with him. Martian manhunter scanned the creatures mind and told supes it was all hate and destruction) he;d kill him.

And here's an outlandish idea... SUpes could not only beat wolvie in a straight fight... he could do it without killing the furry little runt. If superman dashed around wolvie and bearhugged him (rendering claws useless), in an admittedly homosexual pose, wolvie can't do anything. No amount of rage or judo ar anything can get wolvie out of a superman bearhug, especially when his arms are restrained.

Why is it that everyone discounts Superman's fighting instinct? Batman gets tons more respect, yet he never kills. Supes has killed 4 beings on two occasions

If you shoot a hostage taker in the arm it will cause him to drop his gun rather than triggering it into the brains of the beautiful woman/ adorable kid he's taken hostage

I know you're a bunch of illiterate fucks, but I'm still shocked that no one included Roland of Gilead, the Gunslinger from Stephen King's Dark Tower, in this poll.

He is THE badass. One time he had to fight a non firearm battle and chose a falcon as his weapon.

He shoots left just as well as right (handy, since he lost the shooting finger on his right hand in one of the books)

And he's trained his whole life as a gunslinger.

Spaghetti.

And no, you dont wanna know.

I pray I dont have daughters...

And no, Nick I never read 775. I'll put it on my list. I also only read a little of the recent War storyline. A major plot element was supposed to have been heroes facing the decision to kill. Anyone know how this affected Supes?

And if you're wondering how SUpes killed 3 kryptonians who were each 50 times stronger than him... He used Krytonite. SInce they were from his old hokey universe where they had different types of kryptonite that did different things... he used yellow kryptonite to take their powers away temporarily and then dispatched them. Only red kryptonite affected him so he was safe from the effects.

Superman once executed 3 kryptonians. It was some kinda alternate world story where Superstrong kryptonians came over. These were kryptonians from the original universe where superman had been godlike. But the current superman was a weakling and he knew there was no force on Earth to stop the three.

He went slowly crazy after he killed them. A great plotline that lead to his exile i space and meeting Mongul and the Eradicator.

Anyways, we forget another killing Superman made. IN the death of superman story, he held back on doomsday til the end and then decided to go for the kill.

So you see Carlos... when threatened he can make the hard decision.

I also say that whether wolvie has a killer instinct or not, he doesn't have the tools for the job.

I never cooked curry.

Aadil imagined that whole thing about the finger.

Yahve: Wrong on both counts.

Superman died already. ANd it wasn't a quick death either. he torn to bits first. And you have to let go your old notions of supes as some god. He gets hurt all the time. it's how he deals with it that has made him a hero. and he can deal with it rather well.

As for lightsabers. Take note of Phantom Menace where Qui-Gon has to SLOWLY cut through the door with his saber.

Again we see that sharpness is nothing without strength.

No weapons means no weapons. Jeez. Like supes can't go off in turn and grab a sentinel to do his dirty work. cuz we saw Wolvie die that way in "Days of Future Past"

But saying they were a spinoff of Bloom County when it wasn't is exactly the kinda zaniness I love about the strip. Thin Red Line  apart... WHen Have I ever steered you wrong?

Harry Potter can go suck donkey dick. He's nothing but a ripoff of Timothy Hunter. In 1991's 'Books of Magic' Tim was the original orphan boy destined to become the greatest magician of his time.

Not only is he cooler, but how many magicians can say John Constantine is their 'uncle in magic'?

Nick: Kevin Smith once listed "A man for all seasons" as his alltime facvortie movie. The new york times has an extended article in it's archives at www.nytimes.com where he talk about the movie as he watches it.

If this can't get you to the site, nothing will. While, you're there check out Doonesbury. I love that stuff.

Nick: I liked the movie Shining, Just dont think it's as good as the book.

Seems' I've found the Stephen King fan club o the board. I dont go out of my way to watch king movies. I do make an effort not to watch a movie based on a book, til I've read the book. but it's not a strict rule.

"My bones and My Flute was written by Edgar Mittelholzer, A guyanese. I can't even find a copy here. Mittelholzr was a dabbler in the occult who eventually burned himself to death to get to "the other side". TOtall cuckoo and his book is kickass.

The great Ponds was done by Elichi Amadi of Nigeria.

Chrisalids is by John Wyndham. He's either an American or British scifi author. He should be easy to find

The painted bird is a really messed up book about a kid in a WW2 poland. The author, Jerzy Kosinski based it on his life, which to judge from the book was totally fucked up. Kosinski also killed himself... Hmm. I see a theme here.

Buried CHild is a Sam Shepard play. All his stuff is good.

A man for all season is a Robert Bolt play form 1962, which got made into a kickass movie, incidentally.

Nick: you defended superman better than I could have...

SO WHY THE hell AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO"S VOTED FOR HIM?

and you kryptonite fuckers, This forum has a dedicated no weapons policy. If Picard couldn't use phasers then wolvie can't have the kryptonite. :angry:

And I saw the Dark Knight fight. Loved it. thought it was actually very 'realistic'. Because Batman was plugged in to the power grid of the ENTIRE CITY (which would constitute a weapon) and Superman had just survived a NUCLEAR BLAST. Understandably, he was kinda woozy.

Dont you guys get it yet? the man can stand up to an atomic bomb. Look at Kingdom Come to see him prove it wasn't a fluke either.

The reason superman often has to go toe to toe with a guy is that he's more often than not trying to stop him from doing something evil and he has to get roght up in his face. No time for subtlety.

Carlos: Forget the adamantium claws angle. You have to consider if Wolvie has the strength to use them. with a kitchen knife you could cut through jello with no problem. Styrofoam takes a little more effort. It;even possible to cut through a 2 by 4, but only if you have a lot of strength.

Now will you guys pease stop smokin whatever it is you're smokin, and get real? Danny, JUST SAY NO.