The NZA Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 i absolutely adore this 90's era of R&B/hip hop. here's some greats love the shit out of this sound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donatella Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Yesssss. This was so much of my childhood! Also LOLing at the Darkwing Duck intro. That totally fits here! I never realized that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted September 23, 2018 Author Share Posted September 23, 2018 man fuck ya'll, this sound is hot @Da Cap'n 2099 bruh what you know bout this ^an all time favorite of mine i'll never forget the morning i put that headbanger panchy onto guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Cap'n 2099 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Ok, I've purposely avoided this thread because of y'alls egregious misunderstanding of the New Jack Swing sound. I WILL be back to educate y'all properly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Cap'n 2099 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 And who I mean I by "y'all," I mean @The NZA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Cap'n 2099 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 So, I'll be honest here: the majority of the videos posted are fine. All fall under my 4 criteria for the New Jack Swing sound. 1) R&B singing. 2) Funky 90s dance beat/slapping snare drum. 3) Rap verse. And the most important... 4) Young black/urban student lifestyle. Yes, some of these songs are about money and cars and that's not New Jack. The song must be about what it's like to be young, black, in high school/college. MJ having a song up where Michael Jordan is shootin around is not New Jack. Also, while I love Heavy-D, his songs have too much rapping. It's crazy to exclude him as he might have helped created the genre (along with Teddy Riley). I'm willing to discuss this point. The others? No. My word is final. No exceptions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 hah! so heavy has too many verses for you or what? because he's not the only rapper with 3-4 verses in such a track and bear in mind MJ's Dangerous is considered a new jack swing album (even though clearly not every track fits the bill), it was his take on the sound - i can't see any reason to discount Jam other than a) your desire to take D off the table here and b) honestly i adore the video but it's depressing a fuck when you realize how many people from it aren't around any more i left off a ton of great tracks though, post some of your favorites that i missed when you can man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Cap'n 2099 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Nah, Heavy-D's verse on Jam isn't the disqualifying factor for it being taken off the list. It's the fact that it's a Michael Jackson song. It's like if Justin Bieber made an album where he raps on a handful tracks (in between singing) and it's considered a hip-hop album. No, it's still pop. Heavy-D's songs above, however, are rap heavy (heh) and can be argued don't belong in the genre. Also, I forgot to mention this in my earlier post, but what is that Queen Pen song doing in this thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 so if MJ was around and did a trap album (beats, features) it'd still be pop? ehhhh...he's a pop artist, sure, but the album would be categorized by its dominant sound. dangerous gets called "the most successful new jack swing album of all time"! that's gotta count for something and yeah party aint a party feels like a stretch but queen pen is teddy riley's protege...honestly, ive seen writeups drawing lines from new jack swing to stuff like bad boy/shiny suit era. you're right though, that one fits the least here ^one of my persona faves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Cap'n 2099 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 (edited) Now you're just posting R&B joints. We have another thread for that. Nah, this genre is better suited being smaller rather than larger. I love the idea that this was just a flash in the pan and can only exist between "this date" and "this date" and with strict rules. Like Bruno Mars made that joint wit Cardi B and can NEVER be considered New Jack Swing because it was made in 2018. Edited September 24, 2018 by Da Cap'n 2099 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 okay, but you gotta post your dates then! yeah, i posted some outside ones that don't really fit there (SWV), but i'm planting my flag on soul 4 real also mad at myself for forgetting this classic joint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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