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so...got turned onto this with the reboot by Gun and bish. anyone else follow The Doctor?
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Barry and Bart. They've basically gotten rid of the Titans and the JSA. So no Alan, either.
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not really. we knew it was only a matter of time with the arcs in which both McCoy and Clint found out what was going on.
I think it was actually well done...I'm just curious how the X-Men are going to react..
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I cannot begin to tell you how upset I am at the loss of Wally and Jay...Not. Happy,
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not confirmed yet
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keep reading. when they finally get to Latveria, things get interesting.
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haven't caught up on ASM. Fear itself still has me scratching my head. Flashpoint right now is more compelling.
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dude, it's six issues.
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so....Children's Crusade just got REALLY interesting....
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on a lighter note...Flashpoints really fun
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the new FF stuff is pretty cool...don't know if anyone is following it
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I'll get my Norm mask ready....
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...have you picked up FF 588?
I haven't gotten this teary eyed since this Diana asked Alfred how he felt about Bruce's death and Alfred responded "I've just lost my son."
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yea, it was touching. Dude went out like a bad-ass.
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better than 90's uber-chest muscles Marvel
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great minds think alike.
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remember, in this universe, Fury's Sam Jackson...so that's probably Bucky
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wow, i didn't see this coming:
Johnny Storm dies.
WARNING: THE FOLLOWING ARTICLE CONTAINS SPOILERS FOR FANTASTIC FOUR #587
By Ben Morse
The tragic saga of “Three” has come to an end in the pages of FANTASTIC FOUR #587—and The Human Torch has fallen. John Storm sacrificed himself so that his niece and nephew as well as his best friend, The Thing, could escape the Negative Zone.
It’s a moment series writer Jonathan Hickman knew about a long time ago.
“Day one, word one,” he says of when he became aware of Johnny’s imminent demise. “When [Marvel Senior Vice President of Publishing and FANTASTIC FOUR editor] Tom [brevoort] asked me to pitch the book, and then later on when I gave him my detailed arc-by-arc, issue-by-issue breakdown, this was always there. I think if you go back and read all the [issues] I’ve done up to this point you can kind of see how it has led to this.”
Though members have come and gone for brief periods over the team’s 50 year history, the Fantastic Four has always reverted back to the family unit of Reed, Sue, Johnny and Ben. With one of these four pillars now gone, Hickman promises inevitable change at the very core of the FF.
“Johnny was, in simplistic terms, the ‘id’ of the team,” he explains. “He represented the child-like, more innocent view of the world. He stood in direct contrast to the world ‘as it really is.’ Now, with him gone, and with everything underlined by Reed’s vision of ‘how the world should be,’ his demise both heightens the need for that future to come to pass as well as leaves it in doubt.”
With a history stretching back to 1961 and five decades among Marvel’s most popular and recognizable heroes, the Torch
leaves behind a significant legacy and an absence that will be felt by fans as well as the characters.
“Jack [Kirby] and Stan [Lee] created these characters; if I didn’t feel like I had a responsible story to tell—one told with great effort, craft and possessing a book-specific ‘moral’ center—I would have pitched this and, honestly, it wouldn’t have made it through the room during the creative retreats,” says Hickman.
“I thought [Johnny’s sacrifice] should be noble, self-sacrificing and most of all I thought it should be heroic,” he continues. “I think Johnny was most certainly all of those things.”
While The Human Torch may be gone, the journeys of Marvel’s First Family march ever forward, with Hickman and artist Steve Epting planning their adventures well into the future.
“The next issue of FANTASTIC FOUR, the last one, #558, follows the rest of the team through the month following Johnny’s death,” previews the writer. “Lots of things happen in that issue that not only cover how each of the family members are being affected, but also hints at the massive events right around the corner.
“This is not an ending.”
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we should really have like buttons...
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dude...that costume looks pretty bad ass...
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once again, which of these groups has Bullseye after them/their families? Sabretooth? should i go on?
No, but they have hired hitmen and the Mob. Compare like things.
anyway, S.H.I.E.L.D. has been compromised to Hydra since day 1, S.W.O.R.D....i cant recall the last time i saw them honestly....which, in many cases, has discovered identities to the major players anyway.
they might have been compromised, but the situation still worked.
can you name many other public heroes?all of the X-Men
The Fantastic Four
hence why the Kingpin took a hit on parker as fast as he did.and we saw how that worked out.
fact is, it's a workable system with checks and balances. Even if you have just a few heroes like, say, Cap and Tony, who are regulating the thing (like the Justice League), it works out. But you still have a method of answering to laws.
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We Have CIA Agents, FBI Agents, DEA Agents, ICE Agents and friggin IRS agents (not to mention regular police officers) who function under cover in highly dangerous and very covert operations ALL THE TIME. Their cover is known to a handful of people.
Now, in the Marvel U there already exists an entity which can easily incorporate this: SHIELD/SWORD.
Also, Cap and Tony share one thing, one very important thing in common: EVERYONE ALREADY KNOWS WHO THEY ARE. So the identity stint isn't as big an issue until you start talking about shadier people, which the feds already know who THEY are, too. Who, in the end, was the biggest story when they de-masked? Spidey.
In the Marvel U, people KNOW who these people are for the most part, and many of them are already in Government Service.
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Thanks Mal.
Nick, can you merge these threads?