Lycaon Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 There has been some discussion about NSFW content in one of the threads in the Anime forum recently, so the moderators came to an agreement. Here on out 1.) Any actual nudity in a thread in the Anime forum will require a NSFW mention in the title. 2.) Posting lots of pictures (or video) in a single post means that the mentioned media needs to be put under a spoiler cut-off, with warning before the cut if the content is NSFW. 3.) Full frontal and/or hardcore content that would have been posted in this forum should now be put in the Hentai thread. Modifications and additions to the rules will be added here when necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortiis558 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Ja, mein furher! Sorry it's the only time I get to use german! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycaon Posted January 16, 2012 Author Share Posted January 16, 2012 Kneel before your overlords! S'all right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelogan Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Huh. Fascinating. What forum is this Hentai thread in, anyway? I don't see it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Jax Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Huh. Fascinating. What forum is this Hentai thread in, anyway? I don't see it here. I believe he's referring to the thread called "Sex with Cartoon Characters" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelogan Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Thats what you would think, but thats where all this started in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycaon Posted January 16, 2012 Author Share Posted January 16, 2012 The Hentai thread is over in the Pimp Hand. At the time when it was moved there, that was where the majority of the NSFW threads seemed to be (at least to me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelogan Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Why would it not be in the Anime forum though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alive she cried Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Yeah, not that it really affects me, as I'm almost never in here but, can't you just put NSFW in the Hentai thread title and then move it back here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycaon Posted January 16, 2012 Author Share Posted January 16, 2012 At the time (if I am remembering correctly), the Anime forum was relatively free of that kind of content. Also, someone was posting a bunch of loli hentai content (calling it loli is being kind). I didn't care for that being here. I think I moved it to the Crap Shack initially, and then it was shuffled to the Pimp Hand and renamed, becoming the current Hentai thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelogan Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Hurm. To preface, this isn't some Arch v. Jax matter of hatred boiling over and spilling into any excuse to bitch, as I'm afraid it could be construed as such. I like both of you guys, and I'm not pissed. Simply concerned. Just to fill in anyone popping in here with no idea what's going on: In the thread titled "Sex With Cartoon Characters (NSFW)", there were several images posted by several different members of, well, cartoon characters having sex. Newt came in one night, seemingly quite upset about this, informed everyone that they needed to be spoiler tagged and moved them to a thread in Pimp Hand called "Hentai". Then they came up with these rules. What I keep coming back to in my mind is that this perhaps sets a precedent that I'm not completely comfortable with. When did the Anime forum become some sort of sacred cow? Newt gave the reason that it's because it's a public forum, but we have many public forums and I've never heard this cited before. Not to mention that I have no idea why it's relevant. Does this apply to every public forum? Why or why not? Here's what is SEEMS like to me: It seems like the mods of said forum would like content that they personally find objectionable to not be included in the forum, despite that it's relevant to the subject and someone might enjoy it. But not just coming out and saying that, because they can probably imagine the eyebrows it would raise. Here's my question: 1. Why is animated adult content not allowed in the Anime forum? Here's what I agree with: 1. Tagging such content as NSFW. That alone should be a free pass to post anything that's relevant to the topic, as long as it conforms to the broader rules of the site. Here's what I disagree with: 1. That, despite having a NSFW tag, topic specific content should be censored and moved elsewhere. 2. That said Hentai thread is not in the Anime forum, and that "Hentai" to me refers to content of or looking like it's of Japanese origin (by that token, so does the word "Anime", but if we didn't include animation in general there would be like 12 topics here, so that's neither here nor there). 3. That sex with cartoon characters should not be included in a thread titled precisely that. As far as I know, the only time anyone has come close to doing anything like this was when Arch didn't want trolls in politics. I could at least see some sort of logic in that. This, I just don't. Maybe I'm missing something. Lastly, this isn't some war to get cartoon porn pictures back in here. They don't mean anything to me, and I imagine it doesn't mean much to anyone else either. It's the principle and the idea presented that concerns me, and I feel it isn't a positive direction for the board to move in. I'm not a mod here, this is ya'lls little corner, but I feel pretty passionately that this decision is being made more for the vague comfort of specific individuals and not with the best interests of the board in mind. Perhaps I'm mistaken, but I've yet to see any reasonable reasons as to why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycaon Posted January 18, 2012 Author Share Posted January 18, 2012 First off, thank you for being calm and proceeding in this manner. Here's my question: 1. Why is animated adult content not allowed in the Anime forum? That was discussed earlier, but again: It started off with trolling. A member started posting porn of what seemed to me like underage anime/cartoon-style individuals. As it was not actually real people (and thus not likely to cause us legal problems at the time), I did not feel comfortable simply deleting it. I moved all of the posts which contained the material out of the forum as this was a forum devoted to a subject material that (in our culture at least) was "for children" and I didn't feel comfortable with it here. It progressed over to the Pimp Hand, were the majority of NSFW material was at the time. There, the title was changed to "Hentai" to let people know what they were getting into. Here's what I agree with:1. Tagging such content as NSFW. That alone should be a free pass to post anything that's relevant to the topic, as long as it conforms to the broader rules of the site. I understand your feeling and hope to properly address it below. Here's what I disagree with:1. That, despite having a NSFW tag, topic specific content should be censored and moved elsewhere. That is partially addressed further below. I will address the other part here. As for the hardcore/full frontal content, this is still a forum devoted to animation, and if it is indeed a public forum we should be more careful about such content here so that kids do not accidentally see it. I know this might be seen as going overboard, but I think this is a valid concern. 2. That said Hentai thread is not in the Anime forum, and that "Hentai" to me refers to content of or looking like it's of Japanese origin (by that token, so does the word "Anime", but if we didn't include animation in general there would be like 12 topics here, so that's neither here nor there). It was moved for the reasons I listed above. I do not have any particular objection to it being moved back here, as I think most of the initial offending pictures have been removed by the host websites (perhaps, though this is a guess on my part, for the same reason I moved them in the first place). That move is no longer up to me though. 3. That sex with cartoon characters should not be included in a thread titled precisely that. A title does not entirely guide the direction of a thread. The first post should. If you look back, the direction this thread has taken is different (in spirit at least). I'll admit that's a pet peeve of mine, and was prompted me to initiate the first objection this time around. As for actually coming up with rules, I felt that it would be better to talk with the other moderators with Nick able to through his to cents in if he felt it necessary (though he stated early on in the conversation that he wished to stay hands off and leave this to us), so that is what happened. I invited the others to the table, and this what we ended up with. I felt it best if we were to have any rules for them to be discussed by the moderators and at the very least not objected to. Also, i wanted any rules we had to be clearly stated, given there own topic and pinned so that it would be easy to know them and avoid misunderstandings and possible abuse on either side. This is the result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelogan Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 As for the hardcore/full frontal content, this is still a forum devoted to animation, and if it is indeed a public forum we should be more careful about such content here so that kids do not accidentally see it. I know this might be seen as going overboard, but I think this is a valid concern. I don't agree with the "please ptotect the children" reason, personally. That's not our job, and we shouldn't be taking it upon ourselves. That's the job of the parent, and this is a site for adults to discuss subject matter with each other. Limiting content is not the way to do it. That's a slippery slope, and one must take care not to become this. By extension, this should now logically be applied to every part of this forum that is publicly viwable, and that's exactly what bothers me. As far as Nick goes, yeah, I specifically left him out of this and haven't bothered him with any messages. He entrusts certain corners of this place to us, and one reason is so we can hammer out these little issues without having Daddy come give the final word. If that's how it is, that's how it is. I just don't want to have to say that I didn't say anything. My feelings on the matter have been illustrated pretty clearly, I think, and that's all I wanted to do, and indeed all I can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycaon Posted January 18, 2012 Author Share Posted January 18, 2012 Once again, thank for the manner in which you approached this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelogan Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Of course. Thanks for responding. I didn't want it to turn into something like this thread , which took half a page to turn into insult hurling a butthurt over something that's essentially courtesy. I feel this is actually a step further and unprecedented, but I'm certainly not about to wage a one man crusade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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