Silent Bob Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas will be the last hand-drawn full-length animated film ever produced by Dreamworks. The film reportedly cost $70 million to make and has only made $23.3 million so far, prompting Dreamworks' decision. Jeffrey Katzenberg, who once helmed Disney animation through some of its biggest hits before moving on to help found Dreamworks, has told the New York Times "I think the idea of a traditional story being told using traditional animation is a thing of the past." Personally, as a long-time animation fan, I find an attitude like that from someone like him to be saddening. On that same note, IMDb recently posted a survey about this question, and an overwhelming 73% (or so) said that they would still go see a hand-drawn animated film if the story was a good one. But in Hollywood, it doesn't matter what people say, it matters what they pay for. So what do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unidentified Source Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 Hopefully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Bob Posted July 21, 2003 Author Share Posted July 21, 2003 Hopefully? That's all you have to say? Hopefully what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 Hmm...maybe with the Disney crowd & that kind of budget, yes. I think much of that budget goes to bad musicals & bad voice acting (just because you can act doesnt mean you can voice over worth a crap), but i could be wrong. If anything, it stays alive via anime, as well as becoming a niche form. For instance, when you want to tell a different kind of tale, avant garde or what have you, you can cel shade it, or hand draw it, or a combination. I cant really see how an art medium "dies", just how it leaves the mainstream. "People bitch about comic artists drawing on computers....nothing changes. I imagine painters went through the same thing a long time back when they first started using brushes instead of their fingers." - (paraphrased) Darick Roberston, artist of Wolverine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unidentified Source Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 Hopefully it is dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 ? Why would you want hand-drawn animation dead? What about it dont you dig? It can be pretty detailed & expressive when done right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Bob Posted July 22, 2003 Author Share Posted July 22, 2003 I agree, I think hand-drawn animation can be a lot more free and expressive than computer animation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unidentified Source Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 Oh, hand-drawn animation is great. I thought you meant the oldschool style compared to japanimation style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Bob Posted July 22, 2003 Author Share Posted July 22, 2003 So you think American-style animation should die to make room for Japanimation, then? Bleh. :plain: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysterytramp Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 The thing is though nearly all the hand drawn films since Beauty and the Beast have had computer animated sequences in them including Miyazaki's recent efforts. I dont think it'll ever die but they'll have to co-exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Bob Posted July 22, 2003 Author Share Posted July 22, 2003 Actually computer work was integrated in with hand-drawn animation as far back as The Great Mouse Detective. And you're right, they can co-exist quite wonderfully. But do you think people are still going to go see hand-drawn films? Everyone says yes, but their ticket sales say no. Look at the failures of Sinbad, Treasure Planet, Spirit, Titan AE. Granted, those all (except for Sinbad, which I hear was good) aren't really great movies, but they fare a lot worse than cg movies that aren't great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Jax Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 If nothing else, anime will keep it alive. Anime, as far as it's come, still hasn't broke into the 'mainstream' in America. And winning an oscar isn't mainstream. Let's see an anime movie be #1 at the box office, then I'd say anime is mainstream in America. And yes, Sinbad, Treasure Planet, Spirit, and Titan AE all did poorly, but Lilo & Stitch did well. Tradional animation just needs to find it's new niche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Jax Posted August 6, 2003 Share Posted August 6, 2003 Ouch, burn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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