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...if theyre mainstream, sure, but if you have a band who's not playing a partisan game at all, and attacks both parties over war crimes & a lack of humanitarianism, how can you knock that? Sure, there's plenty of kids who're anti-bush cause green day or pearl jam told them to. Meanwhile, again, Rage made me aware of some critical thinkers like Chomsky, Zinn, and others, so id hardly feel like the band's tool if i walk away learning important things like that, you know? Which is any time youre on a stage and you care to do so, so long as everyone knows that. Dont get me wrong, i dont wanna go to a Digital Underground show and hear a half hour of Humpty Hump's views on the middle east (actually, thatd be funny), but with Rage, you know what youre gettin into, they dont hide it. Exactly, just like these guys. Matter of fact, first time i saw Moore, he was getting arrested in the video to "Sleep now in the fire". Man, im not puttin many more rock groups out there, but ill still defend rage's immense talent and message, as well as the importance of such a group, especially when almost no other ones like it exist.

I dunno, Deac, id disagree with that too...i thought they had a lotta range, with a lotta causes, as opposed to many groups who have little to say over multiple albums. Even if it was the same message, Zach's fiery vocals always did it for me. The debut was classic, but you didnt go for this one...? 's a shame...and ive heard other say that they got tired of the message, but im not sure how...there was only 3 albums (the 4 was covers), you know? And they were all solid, i thought. Even later stuff like "No Shelter" was amazing. That said, i can see its not for everyone, and im certainly not tryin to sell it, i just really think consciousness on this level is dysmally small out there (and has been since powerful MCs like Chuck D of Public Enemy stepped down), and theyre needed now more than ever, especially while people seem to be listening. deac - ill make a point to check that track out. I'm also looking for the other Zach solo efforts Jax mentioned, the only one i have right now is "C.I.A. - Criminals in Action" with KRS-1, and its impressive.

10 cool points if you can name this classic jam: [Phife] Linden Boulevard represent, represent Tribe Called Quest represent, represent When the mic is in my hand, I'm never hesitant My favourite jam back in the day was Eric B. for President Rude boy composer Step to me you're over Brothers wanna flex Youre not Mad Cobra MC short and black There aint no other Trini-born black like Mia Longs grandmother Tip and Sha they all that, Phife-Dawg ditto Honey tell your man to chill, or else you'll be a widow Did not you know that my styles are top-dollar? The Five-Foot Assassin knockin fleas off his collar Hip-hop scholar since bein knee-high to a duck The height of Mugsy Bogues, complexion of a hockey puck You better ask somebody on how we flip the script Come to a Tribe show and watch the three kids rip [Q-Tip] Queens is in the house represent, represent A Tribe Called Quest represent, represent No tamin of the style cuz it gets irreverent A Tribe Called Quest represent, represent Huh-huh, here we go You know that I'm the rebel Throwin out the wicked like God did the Devil Funky like your grandpas drawers, dont test me We in like that, youre dead like Presley When we comin through get tickets to see me We work for the paper so therell never be a preemie Lyrics are abundant cuz we got it by the mass Egos are all idle cuz the music is the task Valenzuela on the pitch, curveball, catch it I think I got it locked, just smooth while I latch it Right Now I must move with the quickness Here comes Shaheed so we must bear the witness Chorus Stir It Up x3 Steve Biko Stir It Up x3 Steve Biko Verse 2 [Phife] New York City represent, represent A Tribe Called Quest represent, represent The Dawg is scientific with the styles I invent A Tribe Called Quest represent, represent MCs like to meddle, but heres my proposition I let my lyrics flow, and jumped your whole position I'm radical with this like the man this song is after Yo Tip settle down, whats the reason for the laughter? [Q-Tip] I really cant say, I guess I laugh to keep from cryin So much goin on, people killin, people dyin But I wont dwell on that, I think I'll elevate my mental Thanks for these bars on the Biko instrumental [Phife] Yo I take it back, Im the Indian giver MCs take notes as I stand and deliver Percussion isnt less, D's wear the vest While they dodgin bullets, you should be dodgin Quest Dont get me wrong, violence is not our forte I just like to rhyme, kick the lyric skills like Pele Tip educateem, my rhymes are strictly taboo Fill em with some fantasies and I'll look out like Tattoo [Q-Tip] Okay I am recognizing that the voice inside my head is urging me to be myself but never follow someone else Because opinions are like voices we all have a different kind So just clean out all of your ears these are my views and you will find that we revolutionize over the kick and the snare The ghetto vocalist is on a state-wide tear Soon to be the continent and then the freakin globe Theres room for it all as we mingle at the ball We welcome competion cuz it doesnt make one lazy or worn We gotta work hard, you know the damn card Try to be the fattest is the level that we strive Try to be the fattest also to stay alive 10 more if my real hip-hop fans can tell me what track immediately follows this one...and panch dont know nothin bout that

Yeah, obviously im with Jax here. Thing is, people bitch about actors/musicians talkin politics for two reasons: 1) Those entertainers usually dont know shit, they just have an uneducated opinion & a larger venue to to express it on, or 2) the fan in particualr likes to keep politics in & of itself. Thing is, Rage knew what they were talkin bout. Its like they expressed their activism through their music at times. People who accuse Micheal Moore of being a director first, dont pay attention to his history of activism, or the fact that he does documentaries, not movies, for the most part. If an extreme right-wing band was using their platform to attack Kerry or somethin, long as they did their homework, i wouldnt agree, but id respect it. If Rage was around, i doubt theyd back Kerry; theyd most likely be behind a 3rd party, honestly. But ive listned to them interview Chomsky, they knew their shit, or at least Rocha did. As for #2, i dont like keeping politics isolated, i think it oughta be on the forefront more often, and am enjoying this short window of time in America when people are talking, becuase soon enough, the election'll be done, and when they tire of the war, ill have to hear about what Madonna bought, which NBA player has beef with another, and shit like that, that's not supposed to have the spotlight..anyway, bias & partisanship arent the same thing as a band that spoke out for international justice & humanitarianism, you know? So yeah, SOAD is just a rock band, and theyre not bad, but by no means are a sub. I respect that this band stood for something. Jax - Again, Morello still does cuts for efforts like Sudan, so i assume there had to be a serious fallout. What else has Zach done solo, though? ps "For the Lady" is another example of a humanitarian effort; tho neither name is on it, Talib & U2 are, it looks good.

if i added pac-man to our site, woudl anyone dig it? i wonder if it'd bring :gay: popups...

Perhaps my all-time favorite rock band, ive never come across a more politically charged group. Zach De La Rocha's fiery vocals, over genius Tom Morello's guitars, were a hard combination not to feel. Many quotable lyrics, and they backed their message, supporting causes from boycotting Guess jeans (for sweatshops), the Zapista movement, working to free Mumia Abu-Jamal, interviewing Noam Chomsky (did you know i learned of his work through them?), and so many other things. I'm told System of a Down is akin, but it just doesnt do it for me. Perhaps my favorite work was the Micheal Moore-directed video, "Sleep Now in the Fire", an amazing piece of protest in front of Wall Street. It's moving. To this day, i have no idea why they broke up. Sorry to be a hater, but i think Morello's guitairs are wasted on Audioslave, and really wish theyd get back together, during such a curcial time when they could really reach so many. I'm very happy to see both De La Rocha & Morello doing their own projects for Moore and Sudan awareness, respectively, but its a shame i never saw them live. Anyone know exactly what happened?

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Ario is off the hook for poker night, cause he met Pete Rock...fuck thats cool. on the local miami scene:

I got the rolly on my arm, and I'm pouring Sean Don And I roll the best weed, cause I got it goin' on SNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP!

Man...were in trouble without Reeves.

New arc looks good, according to Newsarama...

Millar & Romita Jr's "Enemy of the State" looks fun...the idea's been kinda done before, but it looks like theyre pushin the envelope, cant wait to see where Millar takes this one...after Wanted, i think he's the man to take this up a notch. Toss in a potentially new badass villian, and im hyped! PS Romita Jr should always draw people in the rain.

oh and here's doop, rest in peace buddy

(source uncited) Nesarama... You know, i really believed him when he said he'd walk again one day, and i respected what he was doin to cure paralysis. Time to break out the black armband again.

2 hours, forty minutes, then its mimi time. tomorrow, i shall reap what ive sown, i can feel it. tomorrow, i shall be an asshole in efforts to rebut my cummuppance (sp).

maybe after work... You know, if i misplace a handful of x-rays, i prolly get fired. As an EMT, if i have an accident while driving the ambulance - even if its not my fault - id lose my EVOC license. Come to think of it, even as a "mistake",if we hire the president with votes, why would you let a guy keep a job after his review shows huge net loses and an unnecessary, messy war?

thanks 2T, this guy is great ps "the 4 stages: KILL! KILL! KILL!!!"...classic

i'm haaaavin pancakes i'm haaaavin pancakes godbless the catscan dept. i feel like hellboy!

terror squad. lil jon. lil flip. yin yang. chingy. there's just so much feces on the radio right now.

here i come to save this thread from bat-cock:

That's a damn shame...all other retro licneses are being bled dry, and this was one of the finest ones, down to the cartoon. With the cinematic advances in effects, and, and...comedy...this would be great! And the old retired guys too: Egon's huge now, and Bill's bald but man, it woudlnt be the same withiout Venkman. This license is an inevitability: they gotta do it again sometime. :D

Just wondering...any word on a part 3, and if not, why not? Retro shit's hot. PS the Run DMC song on part 2 is classic.

ffix: never touched it that's a shame man...that game was a lotta fun,it was like a shout-out to the old school FF fans. ps dont mind chiefy's hateration, he's just got console-envy.