Keth Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 No thread for this?! Watching the movie now (obviously). Which surprisingly some folks didn't like. http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/01/25/sundance-furious-tim-and-eric/ “What the f—!” one audience member shouted. Heidecker’s answer: “F— you. What else? … You, baldy?”
Thelogan Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 I know we've talked about this somewhere. There seems to be no middle ground with T&E. You either like them or you really, really, REALLY fucking hate them. In my experience, most people really, really, REALLY fucking hate them.
Thelogan Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 See? I love it. I love tasting the tears of all the people that hate it, all the people that don't get it and every person who gets pissed because it interrupts their cartoons.
Maldron Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 Ah yes, the "you don't get it so both the show and also I am superior" defense! I've watched eight episodes. Never had a reason to laugh once. It's lazy satire coupled with boring gross-out and in a repeat-until-they-laugh-nervously environment. Except I don't laugh. The fourty-second buzzer, the repeated button presses for the phone, the rapid-fire automated responses for the party-snoozer. It doesn't suddenly become funny the eighth time unless you're high or sleep-addled because of its 2am air time. But here, have a chuckle! -------------------------- Here she comes. Here she comes. Here she comes. Here she comes. Here she comes. Here she comes. Here she comes. Here she comes. Here she comes. Here she comes. Here she comes. Here she comes. Here she comes. Here she comes. Here she comes. Here she comes. Here she comes. Here she comes. Here she comes. Here she comes. Here she comes. Here she comes. Here she comes. Here she comes. Here she comes. Here she comes. Here she comes. Here she comes.
Thelogan Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 Ah yes, the' "it could only be funny if you're high or sleep deprived, and also I am superior" defense! See how that shit works? Personally, I find that people who DON'T like certain things tend to feel far, far more superior about it than people who DO like those things. And there was a reason I sandwiched the "people who don't get it" between two other types of people. But it's moot. Humor, like music, is highly subjective. You can't say "No, that's just not funny" when sober, intelligent people are laughing hysterically at it. It's a battle you can't win. You're forced to either find a flaw in the humor or yourself, and most people are far too conceited to admit it's them, or you have to admit that people have different tastes and there is no "right" answer.
Maldron Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 Fair enough point. Probably wouldn't have defaulted to that tact if not for the "I feast on your tears," bit, but hey. My observed fault in the humor stands, it's repeat-until-laugh and i won't suddenly change my mind on whether it's funny or not thirty seconds into the same joke. That one didn't repeat it so much as it tried to make alcoholism the punchline. Which it just isn't, to me.
Thelogan Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 Ohhh, you're one of those "(X) subject is no laughing matter" guys, huh? Yeah, I suspect we probably won't have much in common in this particular area. You should probably avoid every thread I make in the upcoming stand up comedy thread too.
Keth Posted June 12, 2012 Author Posted June 12, 2012 I fucking love Tairy. He probably deserves his own spinoff as much, if not more than Dr. Brule. Speaking of which, Check It Out ya dummy!
Maldron Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 I wouldn't say that. Chris Titus has presented many of those subjects hilariously to me. But I don't see much in that Brule segment other than "look, he's drinking too much wine in a professional setting," and I don't think that's funny enough on its own. He's not doing anything other than drinking too much. He's not embarrassing himself beyond being messy, he's not revealing dark personal truths, he's not trying to stab mind-ghosts with a corkscrew. He's just knockin' 'em back and there ain't much funny in that to me. I mean, when I watch a friend drink way too fucking much and getting stupid, it's hilarious because i know the contrast. Drunk Brule isn't that honestly distinguishable from sober Brule.
Iambaytor Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 I am the exception to the rule here, I think Tim and Eric are okay. In every episode I find 2-3 sketches I like and maybe 3-5 (usually short non-sequitor ones) I don't. They do fall back on Sideshow Bob and the Rakes bits a lot but there's some things that are just too genius to ignore. I mean sure the repeated canned lines were repeated line humor but the ridiculousness of what looks like a serial killer mask being used to fool guests at a party is not only ridiculous but also the And in the Jackie Chan one it's not the buzzer that's funny, it's the way the smile fades off his face as he's doing it.
MetalHeart Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 I loooove Tim and Eric. The movie was pretty good, but honestly it was John C. Reilly that stole the show in it!
Thelogan Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 'Baytor's stance isn't much different from my own, when I think about it. They certainly don't hit paydirt every time, it's just that when I like a skit, I tend to like it A LOT. The best way I've heard it described is "nightmare comedy". It's like this little slice of public access culture and something is just wrong with it. There's almost always something in an episode that makes you more uncomfortable than amused, or perhaps you laugh because you're so nervously uncomfortable. It's damn hard to quantify. Like Apple Jacks, I can't explain why I like it. I just do. I loooove Tim and Eric. I know you do. I have some interesting news in that department. I've just friended because I had a question for him. I have learned that he is HAPPY to sit on people for a reasonable fee. Now, he lives in Kentucky, so that fee normally includes flight, hotel and meals, BUT he's going to be in the DFW area in August. So it would just be a sitting fee. I think I may have found you the perfect early birthday present. I'll keep you updated.
MetalHeart Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 Holy Fuck!! That would be magical. We would have to get it on video.
Thelogan Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 Hell yeah. I bet we can talk him into throwing in a "SHRIIIIIIIIIM!" when he does it. He seems like a really cool guy. I mean, he has 4 cats. How can you not be a cool guy with 4 cats?
Keth Posted June 12, 2012 Author Posted June 12, 2012 I wanna meet David Liebe Hart. He seems like a very interesting guy.
Maldron Posted June 14, 2012 Posted June 14, 2012 It occured to me, ere I was watching Adult swim and chuckling at 12 oz Mouse and Xavier, that I shouldn't throw stones. Then it occurred that that revelation is better publicized than internalized, that I may be called on it.
Iambaytor Posted June 14, 2012 Posted June 14, 2012 Xavier and 12 Ounce mouse are far far more non-sequitor than Tim and Eric. Still I think any Adult Swim show that isn't The Venture Brothers or anime is a guilty pleasure.
Maldron Posted June 14, 2012 Posted June 14, 2012 I choose to believe you qualify The Boondocks under anime.
Iambaytor Posted June 14, 2012 Posted June 14, 2012 Nope, just forgot about it. But the art style fits.
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