Jumbie

rape... what? Other dolphins?

Whatever you may think this post is NOT a direct reply to the one above. No sir, not at ALL an indication of my reaction upon reading what I just saw above. :crunk:

*I* liked Planetary. A lot.

First off, lemme apologize for totally misunderstanding the rules of blargh. For some reason I got it into my head that consecutive posts weren't allowed. Next, lemme say that the posts where I basically pointed out Spunky and others consecutive posts were borderline in so far as the blargh rule in direct reply. It wasn't quite a direct reply, but it was more than just a random comment. I'd be quite ok if those two posts I made got crapshacked or moved to blargh-reply. ----------------------------- As for blargh posts getting moved, I think Spunky's perhaps not taking blargh in the spirit it was meant. Blargh, to me, is a game thread, like Word association or 'say something about the last poster' or werewolf, where the game IS the topic. Now, in POlitics if the abortion thread gets sidetracked into a feminism debate, for instance, the mods will split that thread into two, where the discussion can continue in separate threads. That's not censorship to me. (Crapshacking a post for being off-topic is censorship, to me, however.) With Blargh we've come up with a system where direct replies are basically 'off-topic' so we split them off into the blargh-reply thread where the discussion can continue. I therefore see no problem with moving posts from Blargh to blargh-reply if they violate the one rule of the game (not a rule of Hondo's, mind you, but a rule of the blargh game) And once again, lemme apologize for getting on people's cases for infringements that never existed.

Goddammit! More sacrilege. No consecutive posts in Blargh! You're going to unravel the fabric of the universe if you and Spunky keep this up.

Had a friend of a friend who worked at a tv station that pirated American satellite for rebroadcast, back in Guyana. THing is he could access all the channels simultaeously, even though his boss only broadcast shit like Matlock and Lifetime. So he taped Sci-fi channel's anime week on VHS for my friend and we had a fullout festival. Demon City I think was the name of the one that made the biggest impression on me, though we did see some Armitage, I think as well as other stuff. Got to university and ended up rooming with an anime freak (Hi Spiffytee), so my fate was sealed. Fucker made me watch Fushuugi yuugi and Escaflowne and Ranma til my eyes bled and I begged for more.

/ \ I I I I AAAHHHRRG!!! A travesty. Blargh rules say no consecutive posts. Shame on you Spunkymonkey.

Hey, Baytor, I got some awesome Bella/ Edward fanfic that I came across if you want it. Some 12-year old named Lily wrote it and posted it ALL OVER the net. The sad fact of my life is that I teach 7th grade and I have to smile and be encouraging every time one of my girls gets all starry-eyes over this series. Because reading anything is preferable to reading nothing. Right? Even Twilight?

Your overall point stand, but... He has turned into a bit of a twat in recent years. Have you seen his political/ social rantings?

The Romantics - What I like about you. The more I listen to this song the more respect I have for the Romantics. They sound like the Kinks, almost. (which was the idea, I've come to understand)

I love XKCD.com

I play every position on the field.

According to the gay test... I'm straight.

Except that your right to view Hondo's doesn't exist in the way you're framing it. I mean, we aren't talking US constitution, we're talking Hondonian 'Law'. There is no right to view Hondo's explicit or implicit in the operation of the forum. Hondo's is like cable TV: access to the content is a choice that the user makes, so the content does not have to be suitable for every potential user and is thus not subject to restriction in the way broadcast TV is. Now that probably makes me seem like an asshole who doesn't care that his fellow members have access problems, but I'm very sympathetic: I had tons of access problems back when the user signatures used to take forever to load through my dial-up. I understand the frustration of not having access. But I never campaigned for a restriction on signatures, because I wouldn't want to have access to a place that had to change to allow me in.

Short answer... yes, the right to post is greater than the right to access. (and don't think I didn't notice that ASC's right went into scare quotes and yours didn't.) Here's the deal as far as I'm concerned... This place was founded in the Drunken Deities era as a place of free expression and new members joined up knowing that. (It wasn't as clear cut as that, I have to admit. Even in those days we had vigorous debates on what could/ should be posted. But the debates then always ended on the side of anything goes.) Now, I'm not against having NSFW shit posted in an appropriate place (that's the way I'd prefer it), but I *am* against legislating it. The sanctions for posting NSFW in the shoutbox should be socially policed, not administratively. As much as possible. From what I can see, NSFW hasn't been a problem in the shoutbox since the initial over-exuberance and now that the issue has been raised, I don't see it coming up again. If NSFW in the shoutbox remains a problem even with a warning on it, then I am prepared to change my stance and back a rule about it, but I want to see that we have an actual problem before I got that far.

The Lord says, "Answer the fucking question." Can we try a real request and see if it works? Also, do we know for sure that the shoutbox can't be set to 'closed' be default?

wait... 'Queen of Stark'? Is that something Osborne put in place since he took over Tony's company or what? I shudder to think what the responsibilities are ...but right of the bat, I'm thinking: goblin juice

No dissonance whatsoever. I believe that people do good out of self interest not altruism. BUT that means I still believe that people do good, and they do so far more often than not. I believe that the members will honor a request to keep the shoutbox clean for the same reason people honor a request to keep NSFW stuff in NSFW threads, because they aren't looking to get people in trouble at work. IN any case, My proposal still stands. Place a 'Keep it clean' request on the shoutbox. A real one, not some snarky, sideways, Nick request. See if people violate it and THEN we can move to discussing actual censorship.

OK, so I accept that the shoutbox can't just be turned off, so I'm looking for alternatives to straight out censorship. If the shoutbox can be set so that it's closed by default, then that's the best thing in the world and we should definitely go with that. Failing that, If the shoutbox can be moved to the bottom of the site, that'd be something I would support, even though it does kinda seem to defeat the purpose of the shoutbox... If those two aren't possible, I'd favor a note on the the Shoutbox that says, "Please keep the shoutbox clean, since some members view this site on public computers." That would be a REQUEST, not a rule, and it would be without penalty. I am 99% positive everyone would respect that and we won't have to make the move to RULES about it, because no one here is a big enough asshole to go against that request.

Are you sure about this? I remember when I was on dial-up, the '5 most recent posts' box would slow my shit down so I kept it off. Can't be sure but I think my comp would remember my last setting and the box would be minimized by default every visit. We should look into this to make sure.