Panch Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqnM-IyYYDs?fs=1&hl=en_US"></param><param'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqnM-IyYYDs?fs=1&hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqnM-IyYYDs?fs=1&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object> <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8JcbELtKvs?fs=1&hl=en_US"></param><param'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8JcbELtKvs?fs=1&hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8JcbELtKvs?fs=1&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object> <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh-cn8rhAIY?fs=1&hl=en_US"></param><param'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh-cn8rhAIY?fs=1&hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh-cn8rhAIY?fs=1&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 here's to '91 pac, mine & many others first exposure to the artist. <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl54ABY8VgY?fs=1&hl=en_US"></param><param'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl54ABY8VgY?fs=1&hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl54ABY8VgY?fs=1&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object> <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2meZCM4Ols?fs=1&hl=en_US"></param><param'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2meZCM4Ols?fs=1&hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2meZCM4Ols?fs=1&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Star Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Love him...even my mom loves Tupac...it's kinda weird...so to make her happy...this is what my phone rings when she calls me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Cap'n Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 2Pac "live" performance. 3D hologram. http://youtu.be/8L73tGfOam4 Thoughts? Sad he didn't do California Love with Dre before disappearing :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelogan Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 I like "real" Tupac better. What a sharp dude. I think, if he were still around, he would have dropped the elaborate Borat act by now. Say what you will about going to jail etc. etc., but I think we were primarily dealing with a very, very devoted drama student that got a brilliant idea. And it went too far. People never change, they just become more truly themselves. And this seems very real to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Cap'n Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 (edited) It's entirely possible that there was no coming back from his "act" and he knew this. Death was his only release and that explains all his later music prophesying his end. Most people would disagree with the idea that it was all an act (me included, although I'm conflicted), but it is interesting to think about. Edited April 16, 2012 by Da Cap'n Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 i think it's kind've a weird philosophical question, and Pac was at least smart/deep enough to ask it. like, no one asks if Plies really thinks he's a gangster or not. personally, i don't even think it's that relevant...you're looking at 2 short youtube clips from very early in the guy's life, he grew & changed a lot and you can hear it across his albums. even if the whole thug life thing was a front/marketing stunt of some kind when it started (which would've been interesting, because he was ahead of the curve before that image took over & dominated hip-hop sales for a while), by the point he's working with Suge, doing bids and bucking off shots at cops, i think it's safe to say he fully became that. and even towards the end of his career when i didn't dig his paranoia/anger as much, he was still articulate and gave off that depth. i used to tease panch about his stanning Pac, but i went back on All Eyez On Me a few years back and goddamn does it age well; the problem isn't a number of soulless rappers biting Pac's style, it's that none of them can put raw emotion in a track to where you feel like you know the dude and can empathize, even when he's talking about/going through shit you yourself never knew. ps with the attention this thing's getting, i think the hologram stuff is only just beginning...i thought it was cool seeing a 2D Miles at the beginning of Vanilla Sky, but if it becomes common to see dead rappers/other artists all over, it's gonna get creepy. and that's before they start selling you products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelogan Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 personally, i don't even think it's that relevant... It's not. But I still think it's true. I'm not saying he didn't become a real gangsta doing gangsta shit, I'm saying he found a pattern of speaking that let him be accepted and listened to and he affected it. The general public is much more likely to listen to someone if they don't feel patronized. Especially the black community. And when someone acts kind of simple and then says smart shit, or breaks it down so everyone can understand it, it sounds smarter. Y'na meen? Believe me, I've been drawing inspiration from this guy since I was 11. This is no character assassination. but every interview post-fame you can see in his eyes that he's holding back a fierce intelligence. He lets it out in drips and drops and hides it behind urban slang, and he's a good enough actor so that it feels natural most of the time, but it CLEARLY wasn't. You don't just start talking in a different accent in your 20's. You can look at it as "oh, he was just 17", but dude...that was like 30 months before his first album. He's dropping hints all over the place here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelogan Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 I never gave thoughts on Panch's video: That was fucking amazing. It looks a little weird at certain angles, but it's $10 million well spent. The future is looking preeeeeeetty sweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelogan Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 it's really weird that you put biggie's picture where suge goes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelogan Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Yeah...yeah. Biggie had the better reaction face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 not sure if you've heard this one, panch: earlier version of "got my mind made up" had inspectah deck & lady of rage apparently rage's verse is mixing, and INS' quality isn't so good but he used that verse again on his album later anyway, just thought it was interesting to come across Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panch Posted September 3, 2013 Author Share Posted September 3, 2013 Yeah, very familiar with this joint (even wrote a verse to it back in the day), but had never heard the Rebel INS verse. Cool. A Pac song/verse I haven't heard doesn't exist. Maybe once I make it to Thug's Heaven ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panch Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share Posted September 6, 2013 Heard it. Blatant lie. Y U do dis, Nik? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 shit took some looking for, but i had to undo your last statement, haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Cap'n 2099 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Had this playing all day. My number one, all-time favorite Pac song. RIP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 ^a classic, no doubt - for me, it's that album's opener imagine going from that, to Me Against the World, to So Many Tears for the first time...shit was crazy. i still really need that album on wax. coming back to this thread, the more, i read Pac's stuff & see old interviews/documentaries, the more i think logan's "drama student" theory is a bit of fish & chips, too. dude's experiences shaped him tremendously from a very young age, and he grew a great deal in a short 25 years. honestly think i've missed dude & his music more in the last few years than anytime since when he was alive, too...crazy how more relevant his lyrics feel 20 years later too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Cap'n 2099 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Me Against The World has bangers the whole way through and my favorite Pac album (maybe). It was when he was still making semi-conscious content. Some folks hate on his later stuff because of its lack of substance, but I think it's all relevant as part of his journey. I can't even imagine how the game would have turned out had he (and Biggie) lived. Definitely not what's going on now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Two Posthumous Tupac Albums Are Reportedly In The Works really cool, since his estate just got back the rights to this stuff also really really hoping next year finally sees me against the world reprinted on wax, it's my personal favorite and the only one they've not done yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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