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i don't even know with Flashpoint, maybe they're gonna introduce Barry & retcon out some of the less desirable stuff?

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i mean, technically we met him in BvS, i just consider the first movie to be an intro to the character proper...but after Man of Steel, maybe that's not a wise way to approach this. really, having Flashpoint (or a variation of it) makes about as much sense as say, having supes encounter Zod on like his first day on the job.

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Zack Snyder's future at Warner Bros.' DC movies: Limited at best, dunzo at worst


Zack Snyder, primary engineer of the DC Comics movie universe since Man of Steel, whose creative vision has been polarizing to say the least, will take a significantly smaller role with the franchise going forward, as will his wife, producer Deborah Snyder, Mashable has learned.


The Snyders left Justice League as director and producer in May, saying they needed time to grieve for their 20-year-old daughter, who had died by suicide two months before. Multiple sources with knowledge of Warner Bros.' plans say that as the DC Extended Universe moves forward, the Snyders will no longer have anything like the level of creative influence that got the franchise to this point.




'Justice League' reshoots extensive; causing headaches for cast schedules


Warner Bros. and DC are spending big money to ensure that “Justice League” builds on the creative success of “Wonder Woman” instead of serving up a “Suicide Squad”-style disappointment.


The studio is spending approximately $25 million on extensive reshoots that have dragged on for roughly two months in London and Los Angeles, according to multiple insiders. Like “The Avengers,” “Justice League” centers on a group of superheroes who band together to save the world. The ensemble nature of the comic book movie, and the fact that its cast includes several of the most in-demand actors working in Hollywood today, is creating scheduling headaches that has prolonged the shooting.


It’s standard for big Hollywood movies to schedule a few weeks of pick-up work, but the cost and time allotted to the work on “Justice League” is raising some eyebrows. Reshoots, or additional photography to use the preferred studio nomenclature, traditionally cost between $6 million to $10 million, and rarely have to juggle so many competing schedules. They typically last a week or two.


Though stars like Ben Affleck and Gal Gadot, who play Batman and Wonder Woman, aren’t working on any other projects at the moment, enabling them to be on call for the filming, other cast members such as Ezra Miller and Henry Cavill have been scrambling to accommodate the additional photography.


Miller is reprising his “Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them” role in the film’s sequel, which started filming earlier this summer. Sources indicate that since that is also a Warner Bros. property, scheduling has been easier. The studio has gone out of its way to make him available, but his growing role in the world of wizarding series has made it difficult for him to suit up as the Flash on the same days that other co-stars are available.


Cavill’s issues are even more thorny. “Justice League’s” Man of Steel had expected to be able to finish shooting the sixth “Mission: Impossible” film before needing to don Superman’s spandex again. That has not been the case, however, as the new scenes that are being shot have required him to jump back and forth from each production. Because of this, a mustache he grew for his character in the “Mission Impossible” sequel will have to be digitally removed in post-production. Paramount, which is distributing the “Mission: Impossible” sequel, would not allow Cavill to shave the facial hair while production was taking place.


Then there is the question of crediting. Joss Whedon has now spent months overseeing the project, but he will not recieve a co-directing credit, according to an insider. Whedon stepped in to handle the reshoots and finish the film this spring after director Zack Snyder publicly excused himself from the project, following his daughter’s suicide in March. Whedon won’t just be rewarded with a fat paycheck. He may get a producing credit or a screenplay credit. There’s some precedent. Tony Gilroy, who stepped in for director Gareth Edwards to oversee reshoots for “Rogue One: A Star Wars Story,” earned a screenwriting credit.


Sources say “Justice League” reshoots have been used to punch up the dialogue. Whedon, the director of “The Avengers,” is well respected for his ability to create memorably wry exchanges between his characters. The set pieces Snyder shot are said to be usable, but Whedon has been working on “connective tissue” that was needed to link sequences.


best proposal ive heard so far is just renaming it "Wonder Woman & friends"



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THR: Henry Cavill Out as Superman Amid Warner Bros.' DC Universe Shake-Up



again, i don't know that i ever blamed cavill for how the movies turned out...but i definitely get wanting to basically start over





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But where on Earth shall we find another nondescript white man who doesn't talk a whole lot?


Cavill was never the problem with those movies (I would argue the same could be said of Affleck) so I'm sorry to see him go but hopefully they'll pick someone good. Armie Hammer could play either role, and should.

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Henry Cavill and Ben Affleck are Superman and Batman no more. WB looking for a new Batman.


Following the box office disappointment of “Justice League,” Warner Bros. has been reevaluating its approach to making movies based on DC Comics characters. The studio is not moving forward with Batman and Superman movies featuring Ben Affleck and Henry Cavill, respectively. It is expected to recast the Dark Knight with a different actor. The studio will be fielding a number of superhero adventures in the coming months and years. It is releasing “Aquaman” this December, and next year will bring a “Wonder Woman” sequel. The studio also has a “Suicide Squad” follow-up and a Joker movie with Joaquin Phoenix waiting on deck.




Flash "delayed" till 2021 or so - can't really be surprised here.  hard reset incoming. 

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DC Films Plots Future With Superman, Green Lantern and R-Rated Movies

"The Batman" details:


There had been chatter that the entire film would unfold in Arkham Asylum, the high-security prison known to comic book fans for housing super-criminals, but that is not the case, according to insiders. Only a handful of scenes will be set at Arkham. If the movie works, Warner Bros. and DC believe that any of these villains could headline their own spinoff movies. Key cast members in both “The Batman” and “Birds of Prey” have contract options to appear in sequels and standalone films.


On Superman's future:

On future projects:

On the fabled Snyder Cut:


There are currently no plans to release a Snyder version either in theaters or on HBO Max.
“That’s a pipe dream,” said one knowledgeable insider. “There’s no way it’s ever happening.”


On R-rated films:


Under Hamada and Emmerich, the studio has become more comfortable with backing comic book movies for adults. “Joker” became the first DC release to nab an R rating, but it won’t be the last. “Birds of Prey” is also expected to get a similar rating and insiders predict that James Gunn’s upcoming “Suicide Squad” sequel will also be R-rated. In the case of “Birds of Prey,” the film won’t be in the pitch-black, grim vein of “Joker.” Insiders describe the film has a more humorous, spirited, girl gang adventure, albeit not one for younger children. A series of recent reshoots dramatically improved test screening results and the studio is confident “Birds of Prey” will be a hit when it opens in February.

On HBO Max shows:



DC’s future won’t unfold entirely on the big screen. HBO Max, WarnerMedia’s upcoming streaming service, is currently looking for DC properties that could inspire films to premiere on its platform. It hopes to make DC adventures that have slightly lower budgets, requiring them to rely on up-and-coming actors and not established stars, with a goal of keeping production costs under $65 million.




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Future DC Movies Will Be Filmmaker Driven Like The Batman
Warner Bros. president Toby Emmerich says that the strength of DC Comics movies like The Batman lies in their filmmaker-driven approach.




Warner Bros. President and Chief Content Officer Toby Emmerich spoke with Deadline this morning about the massive success of The Batman. Although these projects are born from massive IPs, he reminded them that "quality is the most important factor for a studio." He followed that up by saying "the biggest thing you can do to influence quality is the filmmaker that you hire."
Read his full quote below:

The secret of the movie business is quality. It's the best business strategy for both theatrical motion pictures and superhero movies. The movies don't have to all have the same tone, or interlock with other DC movies, or have an Easter egg that sets up another film. Quality is the most important factor for a studio, and the biggest thing you can do to influence quality is the filmmaker that you hire.


guess that's it for the interconnected snyderverse stuff...gotta say, i hope team-ups happen sometimes, but this approach seems way better
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WARNER BROS to announce DC's own separate studio as Emmerich exits, rapport found over Todd Phillips to become DC's "lead consultant"




The MGM veterans will run Warners and New Line while temporarily overseeing DC as David Zaslav searches for a new chief.


"Zaslav's strategy as he shapes the company is to create three verticals, each with its own leadership: Warner Bros.-New Line (under De Luca and Abdy), DC and Animation. DC Films president Walter Hamada will report to De Luca and Abdy until new leadership is identified, and the head of the animation vertical is yet to be named.

Zaslav's intention is to model Warners after the system that former Disney CEO Bob Iger implemented at that studio, with the verticals reporting directly to him."

Regardless, Zaslav is negotianting with Todd Phillips to act as sort of a "lead consultant" over next DC projects or to (as some


other sources say) go ahead with some other DC projects he might have. As we know Zaslav is a very "numbers guy" so this was really attractive to him:


Warner Bros. CEO Eyeing Joker’s Todd Phillips For Major DC Films Role

Warner Bros. CEO David Zaslav is reportedly looking to Joker director Todd Phillips to shepherd DC’s future films.





Warner Bros. Wants Todd Phillips To Consult on New DC Movies

Shortly after Warner Bros. finalized its merger with Discovery, Inc. in April, Variety published a story that laid out David Zaslav's plans for an "overhaul" of DC Entertainment. Among other options, the newly-minted CEO was reportedly thinking about hiring a Kevin Feige-esque "creative and strategic czar" to tie the studio's films and TV shows together. Now, it sounds like Zaslav may have someone in mind. According to The Hollywood Reporter, Zaslav has his eye on Joker director Todd Phillips to act as an "advisor" on new DC films.


The future of DC is in new hands with David Zaslav stepping in as the new CEO of Warner Bros. Discovery following the merger. It's been previously reported that Zaslav is looking at recent films like Todd Phillips' Joker as the blueprint moving forward. Joker was notably a huge hit for Warner Bros. after earning a billion dollars with a budget under $100 million. The new CEO is also looking to make DC films a theatrical product and for a leader in the vein of Marvel's Kevin Feige.


i know they need a new direction, but feige is a fan of the books.  i can't help but feel that affects things. 
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Yeaaaaah. If you're not getting someone who's obsessed with the books, you're gonna have a bad time. The one off movies are working well, but in the grand scheme of things people will at some point want things that at least lean on the source material a little bit. Its part of the "fan" in fandom. 


Props for the Batman doing what it did and really well. I just don't know if I need a Joker style Superman or Flash. 


But I guess Ezra Miller is doing that himself IRL isn't he...

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christ, yeah that dude's a mess


total aside, but i went diving recently & between HBO stuff and otherwise, DC has been doing so many more animated movies based on storylines/somewhat obscure characters than i had any idea, for years now.  it's not all DCAU quality but it's so much better than marvel/etc animated efforts, or DC's own cinematic stuff for that matter

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