The NZA Posted December 3, 2006 Posted December 3, 2006 So, bishop'd been pushing this one, and his taste in games is damn near spot-on with mine a lot of times, so i shouldve taken heed, but Persona for the PS1 (during the dark, pre-FFVII rpg days) was confusing for me and i never finished it, whcih was a rarity in that time. Anyway, i kept noticing sites/forums with people that were disenfrahcnished with the FF series (before XII), going on about how mainstream RPGs had gotten formulaic in plot, and that more of them should be like this one. I had to find out. Ive honestly only managed to log a few hours into this one, but i can already tell its one I want to get way more into...you're a student in a japanese town, on an otherwise normal-looking day, looking to meet a friend of yours around the hospital. There's talk of unrest and cult activity and such, but things're otherwise mundane. The hosptial's practically empty, but by the time you find much of anything, youre with your teacher on the roof, and youre literally watching the apocalypse. The world ends around you. You only survive because you were there, and some mysterious figures inject a demon into you. Having the world end to a demonic armageddon in the first hour or so clearly isnt standard fare. The engine is still like persona in that its a traditional RPG with more options, like talking or some form of capturing certain enemies, it looks a bit more complex than usual but nowadays ive got gamefaqs.com to sort things out - anyway, in case there's somehow a j-rpg fan on here that also hasnt gone next-gen yet, its really worth checking out. (Ive no idea how digitial devil saga went, and devil summoner i havent even seen a review for yet...)
Lycaon Posted December 3, 2006 Posted December 3, 2006 What little of it that I've played is good. I need to get back to this one soon.
MetalHeart Posted December 3, 2006 Posted December 3, 2006 sjfalskjf I need to get Cj back up in here. He liked this game. It's apart of series, right?
Lycaon Posted December 3, 2006 Posted December 3, 2006 sjfalskjf I need to get Cj back up in here. He liked this game. It's apart of series, right? I think it was...
The NZA Posted December 4, 2006 Author Posted December 4, 2006 It is, but (and i could be wrong) its more a style than connecting stories. Agian, Persona, i believe, is in the line - but there's Shin Megami Digitial Devil Saga 1 & 2, most recently Devil Summoner, but agian, i know dick about those, hoping for bishopcruz to chime in (mebbe Newt?) but i can definitely recommend Nocturne.
Iambaytor Posted December 4, 2006 Posted December 4, 2006 I've not seriously enjoyed an RPG made after the PS2 came out, there's been some that were mild entertainment but none can match Final Fantasy 4, Final Fantasy 6, Breath of Fire 1-3, Chrono Trigger, Earthbound, Secret of Mana, Secret of Evermore, and Phantasy Star 4 (That's right Final Fantasy 7 isn't on the list... bite me) but I found some mild enjoyment in this (moreso than Final Fantasy X or any other next-gen RPG) it's kind of like a mixture between Pok'emon and Dragon Warrior 3 (Least I think it was that one) I don't think I'd ever buy it but I did enjoy it , Digital Devils Saga, not so much
The NZA Posted December 4, 2006 Author Posted December 4, 2006 wait, which one did you enjoy? Nocturne? you lost me at the end. Earthbound and Phantasy Star IV? Sir, you have to wait till tomorrow for my FHD.
Iambaytor Posted December 4, 2006 Posted December 4, 2006 Ugh, nevermind I was mistaken. Nocturne was the one I liked, it was Digital Devil Saga that I didn't. Little bit of confusion, I've been out of the RPG loop for a bit.
bishopcruz Posted December 6, 2006 Posted December 6, 2006 Okay, the SMT games are friggen awesome, I have played all of the games in the main series (though I only beat part 1), Nocturne is part 3. There have been a ton of spinoffs, the most well known ones are the Persona games, Persona 1 I fell in love with because it was so different, and Persona 2 was amazing. Other spinoffs are the Devil Summoner series which were supposed to be amazing, but we never got any except for this new one. Digital Devil Saga is a spinoff of nocturne, and pretty good, though not as good as Nocturne itself. The game had 2 parts, I've only played the first. Glad you finally got around to it IC, the game is just amazing as you get deeper into it.
The NZA Posted December 9, 2006 Author Posted December 9, 2006 Yeah, jesus...i was just lost in some interent thing and saw a vision of the people who changed me into a demon, talking about hell and....anyway, i wont spoil it but im intrigued as all fuck.
The NZA Posted December 16, 2006 Author Posted December 16, 2006 holy assballs, this game is kinda hard. the random battles can fuck you up, and the bosses...take work. Its a lot easier since my slow ass (around level 20) finally figured out demon fusion, ive taken 2 mediocre ones & made something better, that with the new recruits has finally brought me a viable team, for the moment. I havent mastered which spells to go with in what scenario (tho stat-affecting ones are way more useful in this than any other RPG that comes to mind) but im working on it, ive got a slew of heavy hitters at the moment. Just beat Thor, god of bullshit judtice systems, and got my ass handed to me (somehow) by » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « ...dante?! fuck man, its a long way over to Capcom! cool-ass cameo, and its cool to be fighting him & have his moves/music going and such. anyway, i think im fairly decent into the game, but its less than 15 hours, prolly cause ive died so much. ive really come around to the engine, and the plot just keeps you coming, no matter how hard it gets, cause ive got to figure out what the fuck went down, much less what my guy can do about it. This one's a blast cause i wasnt even in the mood for an RPG, it just sucked me in.
bishopcruz Posted December 17, 2006 Posted December 17, 2006 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Dante is a motherfucker, that's for damn sure. Not the hardest boss fight at all though, wait till you fight some of the others. Glad you're liking the game though. It is just damn friggen cool.
The NZA Posted December 17, 2006 Author Posted December 17, 2006 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Im so mad, i might delete Devil May Cry 3 off my drive out of spite. Fuck that metrosexual fuck and his "i get like 3 attacks each time!" ways, all the guides say he's straighforward but by the last round, he's lowered our defense and his gay-ass bullet time shit is confusing those left standing. im wailing on him, and he hasnt got much left in him, but i keep ending up one or two hits away from finishing him. i cant believe how much stat spells affect this game...time to go level up some more.
Newtype Posted May 22, 2008 Posted May 22, 2008 Gave up playing Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne It gets to a point where you just have to say fuck it and give up playing before you snap.
Newtype Posted May 22, 2008 Posted May 22, 2008 Giving up? How sad! Till the veins in my forehead stops throbbing every time i see the cover.
The NZA Posted May 23, 2008 Author Posted May 23, 2008 yeah, maldron: did you finish that one? i think bishop might've but im not certain. the extra dungeons, certainly not. speaking of, man's not here cause he's knee-deep in the new build of Persona 3.
bishopcruz Posted May 23, 2008 Posted May 23, 2008 Persona 3 is digital crack. I'm 50+ hours in and I still have like 6 months to go. Jesus fucking christ it sucks time away. It is awesome though. SMT3 is a cooler game, though not a friendly, the actual dungeons and exploration aspect friggen OWN P3. I still have yet to beat it, the game is a BEAST!!!
bishopcruz Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 Almost done with 'The Journey' part of Persona 3, GAH the last boss is a motherfucking WHORE!! WHORE I say!!! Gotta level some, well, less my guy and more my retarded buddies. I have to give this game credit though, I never thought I'd play an RPG where you can get more 'tang than Fallout 2. Bravo Atlus.
The NZA Posted July 30, 2008 Author Posted July 30, 2008 props. im getting my ass whupped but good by the boss of floor 135 or so, some constantly-fucking-megido-casting-table. i gotta go level up the characters i dont use (the kid, the dog, junpei etc) and see if they fair better with their resistances. ive maxed the monk and chihiro s links, here's to hoping for more soon, much less the ability to take advantage of the personas they unlocked one day.
bishopcruz Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 Well, the journey has ended. Now time to tackle the answer. Hey Newt? Did you ever beat the game?
The NZA Posted July 30, 2008 Author Posted July 30, 2008 congrats, and thanks for the help with the goddamn table! #$%@ im stuck leveling yuka, junpei & the dog and hoping for the best. i too wonder if newt finished. so how'd the ending hold up? dont forget, i have the manga if you want further reading.
bishopcruz Posted July 31, 2008 Posted July 31, 2008 I'd give more advice but I honestly can't remember tactics for specific bosses. Found this online, I remember the boss now, he was a bitch. Now, this can definitely be one of the harder bosses inside Tartarus. First, theboss blocks strike attacks and is strong against the other two physical types, as well as fire. The two biggest moves you'll want to watch out for are Megidola and Maragidyne, which are definitely its strongest attacks. A good party to use is Junpei and Koromaru, at least, for their resistance to fire. Your third member is up to you, but it might be wise to bring Yukari for healing purposes. The boss also knows Hamaon, which will most likely connect on Koromaru a few times, but it doesn't use the move that often. It also knows Evil Touch, which inflicts the Fear status, and it can follow up with Ghastly Wail, which will instantly kill anyone that has the Fear status. A very good Persona to use in this battle is Saki Mitama (can get one from a Shuffle), which is strong against fire and has two very good skills in its repertoire. At level 42, it learns Mediarama, which is a very good healing spell to have for this battle (Yukari also learns this at level 43). At level 45, it will also learn Divine Grace, which boosts the capabilities of healing spells. If you have a Persona with Revolution (Power learns it at 30, Jikokuten learns it at 31 and Eligor starts with it), then use that spell to increase the chances of Junpei or Koromaru scoring a critical hit, then follow up with an All-Out Attack. Tarunda and Marakukaja (Junpei learns Marakukaja at level 44) also both help a lot. If it makes you feel better, the next bosses were cake, especially with the Incubus/Succubus combo attack. looks like you needed to use those characters you weren't leveling. I don't remember using the dog until later myself, but it's usually a good idea to keep leveling people.
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