archangel Posted January 26, 2009 Author Share Posted January 26, 2009 Because in a game where they only needed 2 points to win, they decided to get 98 more. You really don't seem to know what sportsmanship is, arch. I personally would not have done it because I would feel too bad for the other team. But on the flip side, if you want to see how high you can go, that's legit, too. Again: 'Lemme go easy on you cos ya suck' is just as unsportsmanlike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Jax Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 I personally would not have done it because I would feel too bad for the other team. But on the flip side, if you want to see how high you can go, that's legit, too. Again: 'Lemme go easy on you cos ya suck' is just as unsportsmanlike. No, no it is not 'just as unsportsmanlike'. That's the sportsmanlike thing to do. It is the courteous, gracious, civil, and mature thing to do. It's a matter of appropriate conduct. Again, I've heard lots of good arguments against the mercy rule (the most contemporary being that it hurts player stats for fantasy football), and I'm not beyond debating it, but the idea that it's some new concept that is part of the same philosophy that games shouldn't have winners or losers is just not true. And PS, the first recorded usage of the term 'politically correct' is from Mao in 1946, but the term wasn't used in the USA until the late 60's and didn't gain wide spread use until the 70's. My dad remembers the Mercy rule from playing baseball as a kid in Cuba in the 50's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signal08 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 i forget, but in major league baseball, if the other team's down by so many points, cant the game be ended an inning early? either way, these chicks shouldve taken a mulligan. MLB does not have the slaughter rule, and if it in fact does, it is beyond 25 runs I believe bc if I remember there was a 22 run diff between 2 teams about 4 years ago. In the little leagues, you play 7 not 9, and anything above 15 runs I believe is slaughter after 4 innings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 jesus fuck. what 2 teams? a difference that large would have me seriously thinking about going back to school or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maldron Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 I guess nobody should praise any baseball team to ever pitch a no-hitter. They should be booed for not throwing easy pitches after the first four innings of dominance. The shit that got the man fired was not doing what the school asked him to. Your employers ask you to apologize, you apologize, or you get fired. I think that's standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Bob Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signal08 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 jesus fuck. what 2 teams? a difference that large would have me seriously thinking about going back to school or something. -sigh- Nick, you had to ask... my beloved baltimore orioles got their asses spanked... http://oriolepost.blogspot.com/2007/08/mor...t-big-time.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Jax Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Yeah, that's the bottom line here. As for no-hitters or perfect games, I think there's a difference between playing really strong defense (which is what pitching is in baseball), and playing a practically abusive offensive game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signal08 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 27 runs btw twenty effing seven holy martha focker runs 30-3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Hightower Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Dallas Academy has eight girls on its varsity team and about 20 girls in its high school. It is winless over the past four seasons. The academy boasts of its small class sizes and specializes in teaching students struggling with "learning differences," such as short attention spans or dyslexia. There is no mercy rule in girls' basketball that shortens the game or permits the clock to continue running when scores become one-sided. There is, however, "a golden rule" that should have applied in this contest, Edd Burleson, the director of the Texas Association of Private and Parochial Schools, said last week. Both schools are members of this association, which oversees private school athletics in Texas. The above quote is taken from ESPN.com and not mentioned in Joel's article. Apparently, the losing team's athlete's had 'learning differences'. Now, here's were everything goes out the window. Exhibition game or not, an opposing coach should know this fact and 'coach' accordingly. Should he/she have let his/her kids lose to them? No..., but I TRULY BELIEVE there should of been restraint. You see, sometimes at the elementary, middle and sometimes high school level of sports, schools will willingly play/challenge a school classified as having students with learning or physical disabilities for the learning aspect. Kids at 'regular' schools learn that children with disabilities aren't different and shouldn't be discriminated against and the children with disabilities are also learning lessons in equality and fun. Were I would normally side the winning coach in this instance, after this information, I can't. I believe that the winning school's administration might of been embarrassed by their coach's actions and asked that he/she apologize. When he/she refused then they had no choice but to let them go... and rightly so, as it would paint a horrible picture of the values of their school. Also, somebody brought up the referees in this thread and I agree. What's happened to them in this case? They are ultimately the overseers of the contest and have a hand in letting this game get out of control. As far as the Mercy Rule goes... I've never been a fan of it but it does exist. Even though I don't like it, I understand it's place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archangel Posted January 27, 2009 Author Share Posted January 27, 2009 uh, panch? Look at the last paragraph of my article... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Hightower Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Oops sorry. No one mentioned this fact in the thread and assumed you omitted it. It's a pretty MAJOR fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 damn, panch's post changes everything. seriously, the coach really looks like a douche now. though the other school shouldve talked to him on the sideline or bowed out or something when it started getting embarassing, i guess. anyway, the coach not apologizing here isnt so much about being sporting or some anti-socialist ideal shit, it just seems really shitty. joel - your article mentions the golden rule, but panch's mentions a lot more circumstances about how these games are played out that clearly werent respected here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Hightower Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 I guess NO ONE read Joel's original post... haha (including Joel... if so, this'd be brought up by now... I hope)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archangel Posted January 27, 2009 Author Share Posted January 27, 2009 Nick...that entire thing he posted is the last paragraph of my article. It's a piece from the associated press, which is why it's the same from ESPN and MSNBC lol And Nick, I don't know if you've ever played with jocks, but do you remember the Columbus Baseball team? Half of them were 'special needs' kids, and the other half were a hair's breath away from being full fledged retards. Academic performance is not indicative of Athletic prowess. If that were the case, Ricky Williams and TO wouldn't have blown multi-million dollar contracts because of weed and 'I don't work well with others' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Hightower Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Man, I wish Kara was here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archangel Posted January 27, 2009 Author Share Posted January 27, 2009 Listen: there's a difference between a kid with dyslexia or hyperactivity playing basketball and someone with down syndrome. The first two can compete at the same level as fully mainstream students without it considered a handicap. Whether or not your brain processes letters properly has no impact on basketball skills, and a form of treating hyper-activity is enrollment in sports. if this were a school for autistic girls or down syndrome or something like that, yes, you're right. But hyper-activity and dyslexia? C'mon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Hightower Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 You truly are an idiot or don't have any relatives with learning disabilities. Man, I REALLY wish Kara was here... P.S. That is the MOST ignorant post I've ever read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archangel Posted January 27, 2009 Author Share Posted January 27, 2009 Listen, my brother has both hyper-activity and dyslexia. my room-mate is dyslexic. I went to a school with nothing but kids with Learning deficiencies. Emotionally Handicapped, Deaf and hard of hearing, Blind: you name it. I've worked with and seen all kinds of students with disabilities, so don't presume to call me ignorant, Panch. Again: there's a difference between them, and you cannot equate a kid with Dyslexia or hyper-activity and say he/she has a handicap in sports over those that don't, because that simply isn't true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Jax Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 These kids don't have down syndrome and are not autistic. The school specializing in dyslexia, ADD and ADHD, which very honestly do not effect basketball performance. The problem was that they poorly matched teams. One was a team from a school with 20 female students total and the other was a from a school with a strong athletics dept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Hightower Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 From the Dallas Academy website... Our Mission: Dallas Academy restores the promise of full academic enrichment to students with learning differences. Our staff establishes a meaningful connection with each student to overcome barriers to success. Dallas Academy offers a structured multisensory program for students with diagnosed learning differences in grades 3-12. We believe that structure and a caring, experienced staff are the main factors for success at the Academy. The classes provide a quiet, nurturing environment to students who in the past have had trouble with concentration and short attention spans. Many of these boys and girls are very frustrated and have not been successful in previous school settings. The multisensory approach is especially beneficial to those students who have been diagnosed with dyslexia, dysgraphia, and other learning differences. Total enrollment ranges between 140 and 145 students with the class size ranging from 8 to 13 students. Dallas Academy is accredited by the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools and follows the current curriculum guidelines set by the Texas Education Agency. By incorporating a strong curriculum, team sports, and a wide variety of extra curricular student activities, Dallas Academy strives to prepare our students for further study (80% to 90% of DA’s graduates attend 2- or 4-yr colleges) and, more importantly, a successful and satisfying life. I'm sure wining wasn't the main goal of this school. Having fun was and that other coach was cruel for allowing what happened to happen. I should of fuckin' punched Joel at the party when I had the fuckin' chance! Fuckin' tactless cock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archangel Posted January 27, 2009 Author Share Posted January 27, 2009 I'm sure wining wasn't the main goal of this school. Having fun was and that other coach was cruel for allowing what happened to happen. I disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maldron Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 As a diagnosed ADHD, fuck you. Seriously. I may not have as much trouble concentrating as the students there, but to suggest that a lack of an ability to focus is a severe enough condition to preempt a competitive spirit is enough to make me want to punch you in the teeth, hope they stick into my fist, and then punch you in the nads. The school's set up to be a supportive environment for students who had trouble operating in less specialized institutions of learning. People who needed a more personal approach to learning than sitting in a classroom and taking notes to succeed. If you suggest again that this makes them somehow less capable of competing with anybody else, I'll do that... nad thing I was threatening you with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archangel Posted January 27, 2009 Author Share Posted January 27, 2009 As a diagnosed ADHD, fuck you. Seriously. I may not have as much trouble concentrating as the students there, but to suggest that a lack of an ability to focus is a severe enough condition to preempt a competitive spirit is enough to make me want to punch you in the teeth, hope they stick into my fist, and then punch you in the nads. ...who was that aimed at? Cos I was arguing the entire second half of your statement there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 oh, maldron. personally, sir, im both proud and astonished you had the concentration and strength to form that largely coherent post. its like another obama miracle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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