Newtype Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Umm... am I hideously late on this news? I must be, because I don't know why everyone in the nerdosphere isn't losing their goddamn shit over the fact that DC is losing the rights to Superman in 2013. From Variety, as part of a long, boring article on the interminable legal battles between Superman co-creators Siegel and Shuster and DC/Warner Bros: "This trial was only an interim step in the multifaceted accounting case which remains, in that it only concerned the secondary issue of whether DC Comics, or DC Comics and Warner Bros., would have to account to the Siegels," he said. "To put this in further perspective, the entire accounting action pales in comparison to the fact that in 2013, the Siegels, along with the estate of Joe Shuster, will own the entire original copyright to Superman, and neither DC Comics nor Warner Bros. will be able to exploit any new Superman works without a license from the Siegels and Shusters." Seriously? Holy shit. DC could lose Superman in four years. Why aren't people going insane? Do they figure that DC/WB will pony up any amount of money to the Siegel/Shuster heirs to keep the right to publish their most iconic character? If so, what's DC/WB's plan in nickle-and-dime-ing them on the way, and very potentially pissing them off? Would a bitter Siegel/Shuster team consider licensing Superman to Marvel just to get back at DC for being dicks all these years? Seems possible to me. Could Superman actually join the Marvel universe? Whould they go ahead an get rid of the Sentry? HOLY SHIT, THIS IS MADNESS WHY IS NO ONE ELSE FREAKING OUT ABOUT THIS AAAAAAAAAAAAA Nobody cares because Superman isn't a fun character to read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 yeah, doesnt public use copyright law get rewritten everytime disney's nearing their deadline? this si Warner Bros/Time/AOL/etc, i cant see this going public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newtype Posted July 14, 2009 Author Share Posted July 14, 2009 This has been going on for sometime now. The fact it made this far should say something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hakujin Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 All I want out of anything to do w/ Superman is a black t-shirt w/ the bloody "Death of Superman" shield on it that's properly proportioned. I could never get my hands on one, and DC won't put one of those out again yet they'll make tye-dyed, faded, and pink "S" logo Tees all day long. The rest to do w/ Superman in any incarnation in the past 10-15 years has been shit. They can't even get a movie right with $100million budget, the X2 director and Kevin-fuckin-Spacey! DC losing the rights is about as likely as Micheal Jackson's reanimated corpse going on tour in 2010. However, I hope it does happen so maybe then someone can make me the fuckin' T-shirt I want and I can proudly wear it to MJ's Thriller2 show. /rant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newtype Posted July 14, 2009 Author Share Posted July 14, 2009 It was $270 million and they still made a shitty movie with that kind of budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hakujin Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 OK, but it was a big disappointment no matter the $$$ amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newtype Posted July 14, 2009 Author Share Posted July 14, 2009 That movie had such bad pacing that I wanted to hang myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hakujin Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 That movie had such bad pacing that I wanted to hang myself. Ah-men. It did have some really great moments though. Spacey was a great LL, too, but overall as a whole the movie was fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newtype Posted July 14, 2009 Author Share Posted July 14, 2009 Ah-men. It did have some really great moments though. Spacey was a great LL, too, but overall as a whole the movie was fail. I love spacey but it high time they drop LL and bring in someone new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 This will be the biggest copyright loss since Rom the Space Knight! But seriously, Superman may have a shitty series and nobody can name anything inspirational he's done in the last 60 years except die, but mark my words, once Superman goes DC is going to be up shit creek. Green Lantern and Batman can't carry that company on their own. You lose the icon, you lose the notoriety and no emo millionaire who dresses up like bondage fetishist furry with a raspy voice who became a parody of himself years ago can hold up on his own. The good news is it may actually bring about the cancellation of Smallville, which would be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycaon Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Assuming he leaves it will be interesting to see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Jax Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 If Smallville is still on the air in 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jables Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 This will be the biggest copyright loss since Rom the Space Knight! But seriously, Superman may have a shitty series and nobody can name anything inspirational he's done in the last 60 years except die, but mark my words, once Superman goes DC is going to be up shit creek. Green Lantern and Batman can't carry that company on their own. You lose the icon, you lose the notoriety and no emo millionaire who dresses up like bondage fetishist furry with a raspy voice who became a parody of himself years ago can hold up on his own. The good news is it may actually bring about the cancellation of Smallville, which would be awesome. I forget which thread we had this conversation in(maybe the Cap't America?), but Superman's greatest moment for me, is Action comics 775 'What's wrong with Truth, Justice & the American way?'. It's Joe Kelly(Deadpool-the good stuff, JLElite) pitting old-school Supes against the Premiere Elite(who'll always hold a place in my heart) as a kind of representative of the 'new-school' Authority, Ultimates, and the like of a more 'realistic' approach to heroes than classic idealism. I'd really like to get your thoughts on that one issue man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hakujin Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 If Smallville is still on the air in 2013.That show jumped the shark years ago, but it refuses to die. So it's possible, unlikely, but possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 I forget which thread we had this conversation in(maybe the Cap't America?), but Superman's greatest moment for me, is Action comics 775 'What's wrong with Truth, Justice & the American way?'. It's Joe Kelly(Deadpool-the good stuff, JLElite) pitting old-school Supes against the Premiere Elite(who'll always hold a place in my heart) as a kind of representative of the 'new-school' Authority, Ultimates, and the like of a more 'realistic' approach to heroes than classic idealism. I'd really like to get your thoughts on that one issue man. that's it. that's the one, past Red Son and Man for All Seasons, that was good, in the last 10 years. i got it in some Supes trade or another, i wanna say, and im done with the character, past Alan Moore's contributions ("for the man who has everything", etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panch Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 I can guarantee that this will NOT come to pass. DC will put up a second and third mortgage to not lose their bread and butter. Yes, his stories suck, but he is the face of that company. There's no way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jables Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 They've actually just put out the Alan Moore HC compiling 'Whatever happened to the man of Tomorrow?', 'For the man who has everything' abd his meeting with Swamp Thing, still haven't read any of those stories so I'm thinking of picking it up. And Red Son stands out as my favourite Superman Story ever, but you can't obviously consider it cannon(Even Superboy seems interesting in the Elseworlds U). What'll be interesting is, in the unlikely event the character lapses into whatever, what kind of goodbye or send off he'll be given? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archangel Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 they'll kill him off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C_U_SPACECOWBOY Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 I don't care where he goes as long as he stays the fuck out of the marvel u. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archangel Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 yea...we have enough with our annoying stupid powerful people....like sentry, the surfer and the Hulk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 as much as id like to legitmately profit off my supes/martian manhunter yaoi fanfic, i think you guys are kidding yourselves if you think AOL/TIME WARNER is gonna let the flagship go public. i just cant see it happening, on merchandising rights alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jables Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 they'll kill him off. That'd just be poor sportsmanship. I'm more imagining an event where he gets sucked into the helix of universes at the end, to land in the U of the highest bidder. NZA's right though- with the money behind Time warner, if they want to keep him he'll be kept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycaon Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 From what (admittedly little) I know about this it is likely. But what if the owner(s?) don't want the rights to go back to DC no matter the price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jables Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 I didn't think Segel & Shuster were still alive were they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 No, but just like any other person who's famous they have plenty of greedy children who want to squeeze every penny out of their parent's work as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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