Well, when I said it was painful to watch, I was meant it was awkward because interviews like this a supposed to be cordial and light-hearted with amusing anecdotes and playful ribbing and banter, and there was clearly some annoyed, passive-aggressive dislike, first coming from Beckham towards Stewart, but then from Stewart to Beckham. I don't know much about Victoria Beckham, and I wouldn't say this interview is says much about her one way or another, but it clearly was awkward.