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[Mr. Sexy Hat]

All im saying is that casting Sam Worthington in a movie is a slighty worse idea than using Michael J. Fox as the puppeteer of Mr. Squiggle (Australian childrens TV show reference (LOOK IT UP!))

[Jables]

All im saying is that casting Sam Worthington in a movie is a slighty worse idea than using Michael J. Fox as the puppeteer of Mr. Squiggle (Australian childrens TV show reference (LOOK IT UP!))

 

Nothing clears away fanboy rage like the image of Mr Squiggle shaking out a McFly Z.

 

Regarding Sam Worthington, there was much wrong with T4 and Sam Worthington wore it all on that big dumb head of his like a paper hat, twirling a cane made of cock the whole way through.

 

Also, he played the exact same fucking role in Avatar. The guy can act about as well as he can nail down an American accent.

[Mr. Sexy Hat]

The guy can act about as well as he can nail down an American accent.

Isn't that called Eric Bana Syndrome?

[Mr. Hakujin]

Apparenyly SexyHat isn't the only one that wants to kill himself after seeing Sam Worhtington...

 

Avatar induces suicidal thoughts?

http://www.cnn.com.

 

Audiences experience 'Avatar' blues

 

 

James Cameron's completely immersive spectacle "Avatar" may have been a little too real for some fans who say they have experienced depression and suicidal thoughts after seeing the film because they long to enjoy the beauty of the alien world Pandora.

 

On the fan forum site "Avatar Forums," a topic thread entitled "Ways to cope with the depression of the dream of Pandora being intangible," has received more than 1,000 posts from people experiencing depression and fans trying to help them cope. The topic became so popular last month that forum administrator Philippe Baghdassarian had to create a second thread so people could continue to post their confused feelings about the movie.

 

"I wasn't depressed myself. In fact the movie made me happy ," Baghdassarian said. "But I can understand why it made people depressed. The movie was so beautiful and it showed something we don't have here on Earth. I think people saw we could be living in a completely different world and that caused them to be depressed."

 

A post by a user called Elequin expresses an almost obsessive relationship with the film.

 

"That's all I have been doing as of late, searching the Internet for more info about 'Avatar.' I guess that helps. It's so hard I can't force myself to think that it's just a movie, and to get over it, that living like the Na'vi will never happen. I think I need a rebound movie," Elequin posted.

 

A user named Mike wrote on the fan Web site "Naviblue" that he contemplated suicide after seeing the movie.

 

"Ever since I went to see 'Avatar' I have been depressed. Watching the wonderful world of Pandora and all the Na'vi made me want to be one of them. I can't stop thinking about all the things that happened in the film and all of the tears and shivers I got from it," Mike posted. "I even contemplate suicide thinking that if I do it I will be rebirthed in a world similar to Pandora and the everything is the same as in 'Avatar.' "

 

Other fans have expressed feelings of disgust with the human race and disengagement with reality.

 

Cameron's movie, which has pulled in more than $1.4 billion in worldwide box office sales and could be on track to be the highest grossing film of all time, is set in the future when the Earth's resources have been pillaged by the human race. A greedy corporation is trying to mine the rare mineral unobtainium from the planet Pandora, which is inhabited by a peace-loving race of 7-foot tall, blue-skinned natives called the Na'vi.

 

In their race to mine for Pandora's resources, the humans clash with the Na'vi, leading to casualties on both sides. The world of Pandora is reminiscent of a prehistoric fantasyland, filled with dinosaur-like creatures mixed with the kinds of fauna you may find in the deep reaches of the ocean. Compared with life on Earth, Pandora is a beautiful, glowing utopia.

 

Ivar Hill posts to the "Avatar" forum page under the name Eltu. He wrote about his post-"Avatar" depression after he first saw the film earlier this month.

 

"When I woke up this morning after watching Avatar for the first time yesterday, the world seemed ... gray. It was like my whole life, everything I've done and worked for, lost its meaning," Hill wrote on the forum. "It just seems so ... meaningless. I still don't really see any reason to keep ... doing things at all. I live in a dying world."

 

Reached via e-mail in Sweden where he is studying game design, Hill, 17, explained that his feelings of despair made him desperately want to escape reality.

"One can say my depression was twofold: I was depressed because I really wanted to live in Pandora, which seemed like such a perfect place, but I was also depressed and disgusted with the sight of our world, what we have done to Earth. I so much wanted to escape reality," Hill said.

 

Cameron's special effects masterpiece is very lifelike, and the 3-D performance capture and CGI effects essentially allow the viewer to enter the alien world of Pandora for the movie's 2½-hour running time, which only lends to the separation anxiety some individuals experience when they depart the movie theater.

 

"Virtual life is not real life and it never will be, but this is the pinnacle of what we can build in a virtual presentation so far," said Dr. Stephan Quentzel, psychiatrist and Medical Director for the Louis Armstrong Center for Music and Medicine at Beth Israel Medical Center in New York. "It has taken the best of our technology to create this virtual world and real life will never be as utopian as it seems onscreen. It makes real life seem more imperfect."

 

Fans of the movie may find actor Stephen Lang, who plays the villainous Col. Miles Quaritch in the film, an enemy of the Na'vi people and their sacred ground, an unlikely sympathizer. But Lang says he can understand the connection people are feeling with the movie.

 

"Pandora is a pristine world and there is the synergy between all of the creatures of the planet and I think that strikes a deep chord within people that has a wishfulness and a wistfulness to it," Lang said. "James Cameron had the technical resources to go along with this incredibly fertile imagination of his and his dream is built out of the same things that other peoples' dreams are made of."

 

The bright side is that for Hill and others like him -- who became dissatisfied with their own lives and with our imperfect world after enjoying the fictional creation of James Cameron -- becoming a part of a community of like-minded people on an online forum has helped them emerge from the darkness.

 

"After discussing on the forums for a while now, my depression is beginning to fade away. Having taken a part in many discussions concerning all this has really, really helped me," Hill said. "Before, I had lost the reason to keep on living -- but now it feels like these feelings are gradually being replaced with others."

 

Quentzel said creating relationships with others is one of the keys to human happiness, and that even if those connections are occurring online they are better than nothing.

 

"Obviously there is community building in these forums," Quentzel said. "It may be technologically different from other community building, but it serves the same purpose."

 

Within the fan community, suggestions for battling feelings of depression after seeing the movie include things like playing "Avatar" video games or downloading the movie soundtrack, in addition to encouraging members to relate to other people outside the virtual realm and to seek out positive and constructive activities.

 

I say let them pull the trigger and thin the herd. Thin it like lizzy!

[Iambaytor]

I agree, if you want to kill yourself because a CG planet doesn't exist and suddenly have a bug up your ass about the environment because of a science fiction movie then please move along. You don't have to kill yourself. Just, leave, somewhere else.

[Jables]

Though killing yourself would certainly address some of those pollution issues. Please die in a environmentally-friendly way.

[Mr. Hakujin]

Though killing yourself would certainly address some of those pollution issues. Please die in a environmentally-friendly way.

Yeah, I'd guess avoid cremation requests if you leave a will, and if you jump off a bridge do it in eco-friendly clothing or in yer b-day suit.

[Jables]

No gassing in the garage or anything like that. Leave your money to your kids, not a giant carbon footprint on mother earth.

 

This one's for you, Haku.

[MetalHeart]

lulz:

 

http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/0...r-plot-fail.jpg

[Newtype]

Even better then reading about it.

 

Edited January 15, 2010 by Newtype

[voltage]

I really liked the movie. It was a mix of Pocahontas and Atlantis the Lost Empire (That cartoon). I mean, the plot was very predictable, but I actually felt a connection to the characters. I understood the whole sociological aspect of the movie. But what blew me away was the visual. Especially if you watched it in 3D, it was absolutely breath taking. Especially all the flying scenes and the scenes with the floating islands, oh god aw inspiring. It did have some elements to the plot that were pretty original, but again all I kept thinking as I watched it was Pocahontas and Atlantis. I would recommend to see it in theatres just to really appreciate the cinematography and aesthetics of the movie.

 

 

And I think I'm a little depressed as well that I don't live on Pandora. I hate Earth.

[Keth]

It just won best pic at the GG's.... good movie and all, but it totally didnt deserve it.

[Special K]

It just won best pic at the GG's.... good movie and all, but it totally didnt deserve it.

 

 

I agree. I do admit that i haven't seen it yet but I heard that the story itself sucks ass. Just because it's a pretty movie it wont keep my attention. I'm a more of a storyline gal. I really wanted inglorious basterds to win.

[Keth]

I agree. I do admit that i haven't seen it yet but I heard that the story itself sucks ass. Just because it's a pretty movie it wont keep my attention. I'm a more of a storyline gal. I really wanted inglorious basterds to win.

same here. or at least The Hurt Locker. That was an awesome movie

[Reverend Jax]

I agree. I do admit that i haven't seen it yet but I heard that the story itself sucks ass. Just because it's a pretty movie it wont keep my attention. I'm a more of a storyline gal. I really wanted inglorious basterds to win.

 

I think what everyone I've talked to about it agrees is that the story wasn't bad just because it was predictable. It is possible for a story to be predictable but not bad.

[Iambaytor]

I think what everyone I've talked to about it agrees is that the story wasn't bad just because it was predictable. It is possible for a story to be predictable but not bad.

 

Yes but this isn't just predictable, it's cliche after cliche after cliche and since the actors with the best performances (Sigourney Weaver and Giovanni Ribisi) get the least screen time and we get wooden-plank disguised as human being Sam Worthington and generic dodgy army guy as our two main characters it kind of takes the legs right out from under the movie.

 

I've always said that you there's no new ideas and you can use old ideas, even cliche'd ones, toward success so long as you present them in an interesting way. District 9 did this, Daybreakers did this, Book of Eli did this. Avatar did not and the more I think about it the less I like it, the only saving graces it has for me were it looked damn good, has changed movies forever, and James Cameron has a handicap because he's made 2 movies since True Lies. One was a documentary and the other was a piece of shit, I'll give him a break, but if his next movies (assuming it comes in the next year or so) isn't more Aliens/Terminator/Abyss and less First Blood Part 2/Piranha's The Mutation/Titanic then I'm going to lose a good deal of my faith in the man.

[gunsmithx]

The next flick he's supposed to want to do is battle angel alita.

 

Ok my thoughts on this flim. First off the effects are mind blowing amazing and I'll be honest I masterbated while watching it in the theater(pee wee would have been proud!)

 

2. I can't have been the only person who was hoping they'd wipe out the picture perfect early american tride off the face of pandora.

 

3. This might be the most racist movie I have seen and you can ask nick, for me to say something means it was pretty bad.

 

4. I love and I mean love the villian, Col. Duesbag, he's easily the most amazing character ever and I'm sad that my father could not have been more like him. He was so over the top that he honestly makes believe that Camern was trolling everyone about the movies message. He's simply the epitome of both the cartoon evil villian and the worlds biggest badass.

 

5. There are alot of neat things in the movie, the usb hookup to wildlife thing while a bit woonky was neat and I wish they had done more with it(the sex sence would have been a great place to use it) and the whole pair bonding thing between hunters and their mounts(which propmtly get tossed out the window but meh) was also neat.

 

6. The ariel fight was cool but some pointless and silly deaths, I hated, and I mean hated the ground battle, the one place where the advantages of the Navi can compete with mondern weapons and they toss it all away to send in calvary in a forest into a meatgrinder >< my god that was the worst part of the movie in terms of the combat(and did anyone else thing the horse on fire running by was just over the top strange?).

 

Dispite the fact I thought the whole white guy fantasy message was silly I enjoyed the movie, it had alot of fun and cool moments and is so jaw dropping that it makes up for the weak parts(pretty much the entire story). Really this movie doesn't work at all unless it looks this retarded good and man does it ever deliver on that, I need to watch this again but high as hell This gives me mad hope that Battle Angel will look as good as it needs to.

[Mr. Hakujin]

It just won best pic at the GG's.... good movie and all, but it totally didnt deserve it.

I disagree. Maybe in another year you'd have a better argument, but movies are all about going to the theater and despite it's weak/cliched plot points Avatar was about a good a moviegoing experience as you were gonna get in 2009. Maybe you could say certain films nudged it out w/ acting, plot, cinematography. or some combination of the three but nothing TOTALLY blew it out of the water.

 

The next flick he's supposed to want to do is battle angel alita...

Originally I think that was his plan, but in the recent press interviews he's been doing he's talking sequel to Avatar and has not made one mention of BAA sadly.

Edited January 18, 2010 by Mr. Hakujin

[gunsmithx]

I will fucking kill him if he does that to me, I put up with his hippy tree hugging bullshit(yet very pretty hippy tree hugging bullshit) in order for the payoff, he'd better come through!

[Keth]

I disagree. Maybe in another year you'd have a better argument, but movies are all about going to the theater and despite it's weak/cliched plot points Avatar was about a good a moviegoing experience as you were gonna get in 2009. Maybe you could say certain films nudged it out w/ acting, plot, cinematography. or some combination of the three but nothing TOTALLY blew it out of the water.

Thats what District 9 did for me: great plot, acting, effects. It wasn't even Avatar's plot that irked me (though it did a bit), it was outrageous claims like "it'll change the way you see movies". it was good and i really enjoyed it. and will probably enjoy more on Bluray, but it didn't live up to the promise. The thing that got me most was the 3 hour runtime...... Inglourious Basterds did that, but when it ended i wanted more movie. I just wanted Avatar to end. Having said that, the epic battle at the end was well well worth it. That delivered big time lol

[Mr. Hakujin]

gunsmithx: i agree, cameron has proven the technology is now there for an epic BAA film. i can't wait to see what he uses this technology for w/ a truly great storyline like BAA (which i'm now realizing is probably where he got the idea for floating mountains) and hope he doesn't put it off. however, it's looking like avatar 2 and 3 are what he'll be up to next. ;_;

 

Thats what District 9 did for me: great plot, acting, effects. It wasn't even Avatar's plot that irked me (though it did a bit), it was outrageous claims like "it'll change the way you see movies". it was good and i really enjoyed it. and will probably enjoy more on Bluray, but it didn't live up to the promise. The thing that got me most was the 3 hour runtime...... Inglourious Basterds did that, but when it ended i wanted more movie. I just wanted Avatar to end. Having said that, the epic battle at the end was well well worth it. That delivered big time lol

I love how you didn't even wait for a separate post to flip-flop like that and did it all in one post. ;) I feel kind of the way about District 9 the way you did about AVatar--I kept hearing all this hype about D9 and it really didn't live up to it for me. I just caught it on sale on DVD and will re-watch it soon, so it may change my mind once I see it a 2nd time around. Although I'm really thinking Avatar won't hold up for me outside of the 3D experience though.

Edited January 20, 2010 by Mr. Hakujin

[Iambaytor]

What the hell are Avatar 2 and 3 possibly going to be about? Do we really want to see the Navi get oppressed more? This movie is not trilogy material, James Cameron, we forgave you for Titanic, don't make us take that back.

[gunsmithx]

Hmm... thats a good point, what would you make A2 and 3 about? Another crazy company with mercs coming to destroy the forest and get the miniral? See what might work would be to have maybe some humans try to live there, and maybe some Navi do to them what the guys in the first movie tried to do to the Navi thus scott is caught by the fact he used to be Human and then brings them together to face a third party threat? The movie simply does not lend itself well to making more and he did little to really set up and explore the greater universe(things that movies like star wars did so well, I wanted to see stuff off camera, not really so with Avatar.)

 

Has he said anything about what a possible squeal for avatar would be about?

[Iambaytor]

Has he said anything about what a possible squeal for avatar would be about?

 

My guess? Space marines, a female lead who kicks ass (when she's not busy taking names), and probably work some exo-suits in there when not busy writing his Oscar acceptance speech.

[gunsmithx]

OMG thats it, EXO-squad the movie!