HypnotizinChikns Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 I just watched this last night, it's a documentry, but a good one in the sense that they don't really take any side, they just show what's going on. So what's going on? It's scary. Disturbing. It's about a camp where Christians send their kids (not all christians obviously) to be brainwashed into becomming God's Army. At one point the kids are asked if they'd be willing to die for their savior and many of them say "yes". yeah so watch it if you haven't... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 just downloaded acquired this one as well last week, ill see it prolly next weekend and reply then. What i saw from the trailer did indeed look scary, i thought it was gonna be more of the southern baptist vactation bible school thing i had to do in my youth, but LL says its more hardcore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganny McVagflaps Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 My momma doesn't let me watch Harry Potter.. It's a great scream at the TV type of flick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopcruz Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 Just saw it and it was rather 'meh'. The biggest problem being that these guys are generally fringe even for pentecostals, who in and of themselves are a fringe of evangelicals. I mean yeah, there is some rather disturbing stuff, I went to similar camps as a teenager and this one does seem to be a LOT more out there as a whole. I was amazed when they had Haggart (I think that was his name on) talking about the evils of homosexuality they didn't go for the (caught with gay hooker) sign flashing onscreen. That and the air america talk show guy shows he doesn't know his shit when he is mixing these guys with mainstream evangelicals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Jax Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 The Haggard gay hooker story didn't come out until after the film was released. I'd argue that the Christianity in Jesus Camp is more mainstream in the Mid West than you'll like to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopcruz Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 The Haggard gay hooker story didn't come out until after the film was released. I'd argue that the Christianity in Jesus Camp is more mainstream in the Mid West than you'll like to believe. Goddamnit, lost what I had typed. Anyhow, you could argue that, but you'd be wrong Jax. I was raised in the Midwest, and grew up from the ages 8-16 in a pentecostal church, not as extreme, but similar in a lot of ways to the one presented in this film. It is a relatively small number of very dedicated individuals, but is not the mainstream of Evangelical christianity. There are roughly 6 million pentecostals in the US as of 2004, that is less than 1/10 the number of catholics and just over 1/8 the number of baptists. Within that group of pentecostals there are around 60 or so different named denominations, and tons of non-denominational churches. Many of the old school pentecostals think that these newer ones are a little off their rocker. Churches like this are not the mainstream of christianity anywhere. If you want the mainstream in the midwest, look at the baptist and methodist denominations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 Goddamnit, lost what I had typed. Anyhow, you could argue that, but you'd be wrong Jax. I was raised in the Midwest, and grew up from the ages 8-16 in a pentecostal church, not as extreme, but similar in a lot of ways to the one presented in this film. It is a relatively small number of very dedicated individuals, but is not the mainstream of Evangelical christianity. There are roughly 6 million pentecostals in the US as of 2004, that is less than 1/10 the number of catholics and just over 1/8 the number of baptists. Within that group of pentecostals there are around 60 or so different named denominations, and tons of non-denominational churches. Many of the old school pentecostals think that these newer ones are a little off their rocker. Churches like this are not the mainstream of christianity anywhere. If you want the mainstream in the midwest, look at the baptist and methodist denominations. Yeah I'm with bishop I've lived in the bible-belt my entire life in a fiercly religious area. Between the baptists, catholics, methodists, jehova's witnesses, amish, and christian's it's all pretty conflicting. However we all kind of look down on people who are this extreme with the exception of a select few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Lindsay Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 i don't care how small the number of people who belong to the types of churches shown in the documentary, it's still scary as hell that anyone could be so psychologically abusive to children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HypnotizinChikns Posted February 2, 2007 Author Share Posted February 2, 2007 Now see here, I was born and raised an athiest. maybe that's why I was so like OFUG!!! when watching this movie. i had friends who were religous but they never once tried to convert me. So, yanoo that little girl was freaking me out. I'd hit her if she tried that shit with me (trying to convert her neighbor's kid, pushing phamplets on unsuspecting bowlers...for shame!). The power of christ compells you twats!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Jax Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 We were all born atheists, weren't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HypnotizinChikns Posted February 3, 2007 Author Share Posted February 3, 2007 i guess i ment my parents were both atheists. i was never baptized...etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 i was born agnostic, as my highest views early on involved cookie monster's influence on the waning of the moon. Gonna see this soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HypnotizinChikns Posted February 3, 2007 Author Share Posted February 3, 2007 Really? I always thought Mr. Roger's was god. closest thing I ever came to god anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganny McVagflaps Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 Man, being raised catholic was the shit. Free bread on Sundays, communion money, priest love. Atheists lose out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HypnotizinChikns Posted February 3, 2007 Author Share Posted February 3, 2007 Man, being raised catholic was the shit. Free bread on Sundays, communion money, priest love. Atheists lose out. ohhhh priest love. an old joke, yet i cannot resist the tempation, to smile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganny McVagflaps Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 Joke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 I'm not denying people like this exist oh hell no I know people like this and they are indeed sick, I'm just trying to say that just because we're midwestern and Christian doesn't mean we're fixing on starting up the Crusades again. Christianity and Islam are so alike it's not even funny pretty much the same belief system and the same thing happens, there's plenty of good Muslims, there's plenty of good Christians but we only pay attention to the guy who sees an imaginary dog that tells him to "cleanse the city" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HypnotizinChikns Posted February 3, 2007 Author Share Posted February 3, 2007 Son of Sam. I agree with you there, their are good individuals in every form of religion. This was a pretty extreme group of Christians, however, they are becomming the majority, or at least trying like hell to. I was more interested in what the parents were saying, like Lee's parents telling the filmakers they don't force their religion on their kids. Yet they surround them with it, and he's not allowed to have any outside views, by going to school or any non church related events. maybe it's not direct force, but there's defiently some pushing there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 Agreed, but then again look at all the athiest parents that don't even want their kids to know about anything remotely involving religion. If everyone would take the time to learn and look at both sides of any issue we'd be a lot better off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbie Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 ohhhh priest love. an old joke, yet i cannot resist the tempation, to smile. It's funny cuz it's true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HypnotizinChikns Posted February 4, 2007 Author Share Posted February 4, 2007 *I* personally was never held back, my parents weren't really against religion, they just refused to practice anything that involved a group setting (like a church). They didn't belive in god, but they didn't care if someone else did. I don't know, it's an odd sitituation, and either one would be pretty ignorant of the other's feelings. and it's not funny cuz it's true!! jeeez. *I did smile when i read that tho...so uhh i guess i'm going to hell* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 wait, there's a lot of atheist parents? where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbie Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 Well, there's millions of them in America alone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HypnotizinChikns Posted February 4, 2007 Author Share Posted February 4, 2007 well you see, you can't really get them to group together, they're like the club for people who hate people, you just don't notice them as much becuase they all hate each other too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 my point is theyre a minority 's all, like what baytor and bish are saying about the zealots this movie apparnelty has. I might get to watch it tonight, but i gotta catch up on 24 and placate LL with this Heroes nonsene first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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