Reverend Jax Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 I'm w/ Nick on this one. I think a lot of people I talk to about the original TRON are basing a lot of it on nostalgia and not the facts. If I may serve as a case study, I had never seen Tron as a kid. I watched it for the first time less than one week before the premiere of the sequel because I was going to go see it with some friends. I had zero nostalgia for Tron, and I enjoyed it. Were the effect dated? It was the first movie with computer generated imagery (I don't count the birth of a planet simulation in Wrath of Khan), of course they were dated, but they were able to build an aesthetic around their technological limitations that actually made sense and worked for the story. Yes, there was a story, and it was better than I was expecting. And the religious subjugation angle was probably more relevant during the Cold War. A perfect film? Far from it, but I dug it. Alot of kids movies are pretty crappy because it is expected kids' standards are lower, but I thought this one held up. I wish Legacy had been just as explicit about the religious themes as the original was, but it was still a fun flick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 It also occurs to me that TRON is actually a fantasy film disguised as a science fiction film: hero is transported into a faraway place he doesn't understand, thrust into a violent and dystopian world where he's immediately caught and thrust into some crude gladitorial games until he escapes with a few of his fellow gladiators into the wild where they build a rebellion and come back and stop the malevolent overlord that controls the world with an iron fist. gee, can't think where I've seen that plot used before... Shakespeare? No. But don't try and bill this to me as a worthless kids film from the 80s, I've seen enough of those to know the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalHeart Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Man, a lot of you are haters. I dug it and loved the shit out of it. <3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Visitant Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Man, a lot of you are haters. I dug it and loved the shit out of it. <3 Fuck the haters, they are just people who forgot what it's like to be children. I got your back Little Lund. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 fuck the lovers! i don't need to hold it to the awful standard of 80s kids flicks to say the story was banal (again, old one, not seeing the new one). if you managed enjoyment from it, that's a fine thing though. either way, you're getting tron-man, as you deserve no less. prolly better than toy story 3, admittedly. fuck your over-hype, jax: this is 2011's new road to perdition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panch Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 They shoulda put Tron Man in the movie. Pulled a 'Juggernaut, bitch'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hakujin Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 Co-Signed on that one, Panch! Or at least give the poor guy a spot as a featured extra. That's cold shit, Disney. And speaking of cold shit, Ah, Nick, binging out Tron-guy as a rebuttal. That's hitting below the belt a bit there, but that's sadly to be expected from Nick. And then going off on Toy Story 3 in the same post. This man crys over Michael Jackson, but refuses to see Toy Story 3? Oh,t he irony just oozes out of that. I hear the arguments for films like Star Wars and Indiana Jones and TRON and the like and it's all "it was nostalgia" and I'm willing to bet that that's mostly the truth (especially with Temple of Doom) . . . Heh, it's funny b/c I didn't really like TOD the as a kid, but as an adult I've grown to like it a lot more. . . .When I sat down to watch this movie, after not having the chance to for seventeen years, I expected it to be a pile of shit tinged with nostalgia but I found out that it was actually pretty good. It's not a great movie, but it's still a long ways from being a bad movie. Best I can do here is meet you half way and say it was a good bad movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jables Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I'm in the same boat as Jax- Only saw this movie last year for the first time and probably because I avoid a lot of content-heavy theological-analogue sorta movies, this kinda bit me on the arse outta nowhere and I fucking loved it. As possibly stated already, the relationship between the 'programmer' and his creations was the most accessible take on a Creation myth I've ever heard. The Matrix was good for face value and as soon as they tried to insert some depth it fell flat on it's arse. At best I'd call it a good Twilight Zone ep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Exactly, the story has a depth to it that kind of betrays the simplistic and somewhat clich'ed concept. It was more than lightcycle races and jai alai. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keth Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otppMltEGc4?fs=1&hl=en_US"></param><param'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otppMltEGc4?fs=1&hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otppMltEGc4?fs=1&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object> 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Heh. I expect Tron Legacy will be a sleeper hit like its predecessor and we'll see part 3 in 2040 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr. Hakujin Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 I'm not sure I agree w/ the overt religious overtones in this parody, but it's not as bad as other film parodies and despite it's deceptively simplistic plot it has a depth to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hakujin Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Well, hoverboards will likely never happen and Nike still hasn't made shoes that "lace-up" automatically. But I'll be damned if the light cycle doesn't exist! <object width="400" height="300" classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" id="ep"><param name="allowfullscreen" value="true" /><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /><param name="movie" value="http://ireport.cnn.com/themes/custom/resources/cvplayer/ireport_embed.swf?player=embed&'>http://ireport.cnn.com/themes/custom/resources/cvplayer/ireport_embed.swf?player=embed& configPath=http://ireport.cnn.com&playlistId=679361&contentId=679361/0&" /><param name="bgcolor" value="#FFFFFF" /><embed src="http://ireport.cnn.com/themes/custom/resources/cvplayer/ireport_embed.swf?player=embed& configPath=http://ireport.cnn.com&playlistId=679361&contentId=679361/0&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" width="400" height="300"></embed></object> Want! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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