Panch Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I'll tell y'all about it tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hakujin Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Jo Pa no mas. Bueno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelogan Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panch Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 Â YOU DID, YOU ASSHOLE!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panch Posted July 15, 2012 Author Share Posted July 15, 2012 Â The shit that has come out in The Freeh Report is downright sick. These people thought about themselves and their organization's reputation over these children's safety for nearly 14 years! Death penalty to all involved... INCLUDING the football program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benz Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 i forget, do we have a proper thread for the scandal, or is this it? Â Â "It was our 9/11 Today." Â #NEVERFORGET Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Jax Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) Like I was saying before, if the only goddamn thing this institution gives two shits about is football, that hit them where it hurts and send a message. Let any sports organization know that if they want to make a calculated cost/benefit analysis as to whether it's worthwhile to cover up child rape, that there will be a tire iron and a blow torch unleashed on the only thing in the world they hold dear: statues, win statistics and football, football, football! Â I want to emphasize that the rape was a crime committed by a person, but the cover-up was a crime committed by an institution. Edited July 25, 2012 by Reverend Jax 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panch Posted July 25, 2012 Author Share Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) I've never wanted to +1 something so bad in my life. When it reloads, you'll get what's coming to you... like everyone that's raped a child or covered it up. Edited July 25, 2012 by Panch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 I got it. I think that's my first Jax +1. Good show, sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceManML Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) I am indeed biased being from PA and all but I agree with NCAA's induced apocolypse. I don't agree with everything however, but it definitely sends a message. Jo Pa turned a blind eye probably because he wanted to believe in the best in a human being he trusted foro years. I think he was lied to by a lot of important folks, including the initial investigators back in the early 2000s. Â No matter what there is no excuse to hold off an investigation of this caliber for over 10 years. But These events have no impact on what happened on any football field. I don't agree with taking away a decade of wins from the most winningest coach in football, or photoshopping him out of all past photos, or taking down his statue. This man inspired superbowl winners and multiple generations for mankind. People still believe in him regardless of whatever transpired. Â This was a haneous act of one man not named Joseph Paterno. I don't think he should have been the fall guy. But they needed someone big to make an example I guess. I mean, don't try to annihilate a 60 year legacy because sandusky is getting a slap on the wrist.. I still cant wrap my mind around what theyre trying to do to a man that gave his life to the school. I mean the most winningest coach was only paid $50k a year... that should speak for itself. Edited July 25, 2012 by IceManML Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dag Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 But These events have no impact on what happened on any football field. I don't agree with taking away a decade of wins from the most winningest coach in football, or photoshopping him out of all past photos. Â I think that the football program should be obliterated, BUT I think you are correct about the above statement. Â You can't take away the past, either they won or they didn't. What the NCAA did by re-writing history was completely Orwellian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panch Posted July 25, 2012 Author Share Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) One did the horrendous acts. The other covered up the horrendous acts. They're equal, man. Â Edit: This post is in response to Iceman's post. Edited July 25, 2012 by Panch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceManML Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) We'll never know what Joe was told man. The feds were supposedly "investigating" anyway. Joe Paterno isn't' guilty of cover up. He's guilty of neglect. Theres a difference. Â He didn't go out of his way to protect the name of his co worker. Theres no proof of that. But they fired him because he sat on his thumbs on the situation. As immature as it may be, you can tell he just didn't wanna deal with something this dark. However, last minute he states that he did his job by letting the proper authorities know; his bosses. THEY ALL KNEW. Why the hell is it his job to go to the cops when theres an entire administration that already knows of the situation??? Â Joe Pa did his job and focused on football because it was someone else's job to look into that situation at the time. This guy is being ereased from history because "he could have done more". thats bullshit. There is someone being paid to handle that issue. Edited July 25, 2012 by IceManML Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 this is a pretty interesting discussion. i just had one bit here:  One did the horrendous acts. The other covered up the horrendous acts. They're equal, man  nah. they're both evil/wrong but there's degrees, i don't mean to split hairs but while being complicit with such heinous acts is fucking attrocious, it's not of the same depth. *my point is academic and not meant to be a defense of paterno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceManML Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 I agree. (is that how you spell haniferous?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panch Posted July 25, 2012 Author Share Posted July 25, 2012 Obviously raping a child is worse, but knowing about it, getting folks that know about it together, deciding to cover it up for the sake of football, continue to employ the monster that just continues these atrocities for FOURTEEN YEARS is right beneath raping a child. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 I agree with that, however (and I firmly admit that I have not followed this at all) the actual players did not rape children nor did they know about the raping of the children, so I kind of feel like erasing their wins was kind of unfair to them seeing as they were at no point a cog in this horrible machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panch Posted July 25, 2012 Author Share Posted July 25, 2012 The reason for erasing the wins, I think, was to take them away from Joe Paterno. Because of this he is no longer the winningest coach in college football history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceManML Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) Well Joe Paterno was not Sandusky's employer nor, did he cover anything up. He's only the fall guy because he trusted the people around him. Joe paterno didnt play football the players did. Edited July 25, 2012 by IceManML Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelogan Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Listen, if I find out that my co-worker is raping kids, just telling our boss is not the appropriate response. Â Y/N? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Yeah, the erasing the wins thing just strikes me as more of a petty jab than anything. Everything else (including tearing down the statue, especially that) seems fair but there's just a lot more than Joe Paterno involved with the record books. Besides, he knows he won the games, we know he won the games, what the fuck does it really do to him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 erase a legacy that (was) likely important to him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) I would think being labeled a pedophile sympathizer by the entire world would do that. Shit, just black out his name. Edited July 26, 2012 by Iambaytor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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