Iambaytor Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Another probably intended side-effect I just thought of, this entices the little Nazi boys on social media to double down on their stance. It's showing that the left will never accept them even if they change their minds so stick with the alt-right because the alt-right cares. They've weaponized human decency. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donatella Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 23 minutes ago, The NZA said: yeah, they decided this affected their bottom line so i rather doubt they'd reverse it, sadly Reading his friends posts are tough. Selma makes a good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Cap'n 2099 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Ok, see, now more info has come out and the picture has become clearer. This isn't outrage over the safety of kids. This seems to be an attack on a person's politics and character. Yes, Gunn said gross stuff (that he later apologized for), but most of the stuff used to smear was taken outta context or just plain altered (the removal of the link and the false implication that it was kiddie porn). If this is all true then fuck that alt-right guy (fuck em anyway) and I hope Disney gives Gunn his job back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted July 23, 2018 Author Share Posted July 23, 2018 yeah, geez - that one tweet in particular was the glaring one, and that bullshit...is exactly what asshole mike does. really would love to see someone take him to court, but i'd settle for enough targeted harassment reports finally getting his twitter platform taken away, ala milo (another pedo defense force piece of garbage that dude kicks it with) also 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Cap'n 2099 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 God I love Anthony Jeselnik. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hakujin Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 (edited) 17 hours ago, Iambaytor said: You mean one? 1 tweet? The one that's not even a pedophile joke and only seems like one because it's on the wall that Mike Czernovich made to make it seem like James Gunn is a pedophile? Literally every tweet that has a section outlining something upsetting in a red box isn't about pedophilia. 5 of those tweets are pedophile jokes and they're all pretty tame by 2009-2011 Standards.... *sigh* I counted two tweets mentioning a three-year-old specifically and five other tweets mentioning either a "baby" or "little kid" in Donatella's posting of the montage of Gunn's cringe tweets. So, yeah, ya got me there. I should've written "baby, little kids, and 3-yr-old" instead of just the latter. It's also commendable that in a post where I essentially agreed with you and tried to put down a truncated version of my thought process on examining this whole thing from multiple pov's you still managed to find a way to take out one line of text and skew the context of my post into a prop for a rage rant. You've really leveled up your contrarian slant game to Breitbart levels. Kudos? Edited July 23, 2018 by Mr. Hakujin The sign specifically said to NOT feed the trolls but I done gone and done it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hakujin Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 5 hours ago, Donatella said: Reading his friends posts are tough. Selma makes a good point. Damn! I don't think most people would've envisaged that level of concise logic coming from a Selma Blair tweet. Fucking Selma Blair, y'all. I'm not sure I've even thought about her since the Hellboy sequel. Good on her though. It'll be interesting to see if Disney backtracks with Gunn at all. At this point I'm betting Gunn is just hoping Disney let's him either finish the script for GotG v3 or at the least use the story he's developed. (I don't believe he's finished a script. No?) Again, Disney set a pretty ugly precedent for intolerance with how they handled Roseanne--that being combating intolerance (or even the perception of intolerance) with more intolerance. I think Disney handled the Roseanne tweet very poorly, but got a lot of support for that move. So now they've gotta double down on that since there's a precedent--nay, likely even a company policy. And we see the vast flaws in that policy amplified with the Gunn tweets. By setting a precedent for zero tolerance on intolerance, Disney are the only ones to blame for their injustices (that's almost too severe a word--"mishandling" maybe?) towards Gunn and others. Alec Baldwin made a pretty good point about how much more effective it would've been in combating racism an intolerance to have Roseanne address these topics on her show in the next season. Immediately firing her was basically corporate virtue signaling. The national conversation over Roseanne wasn't about combating racism and intolerance--it was more about the quickness of Roseanne's "fall" and whether it was justified or not. Offense is a very personal thing. Someone taking offense has been "weaponized" for years now. The right wing is just using those same faulty SJW tactics as effectively (in Gunn's case at least) against the left. I've already digressed too far into rant territory, so I'll stop now. tl;dr Disney set this ball in motion and it shows no sign of stopping. Delete all your social media the day you're fortunate (?) enough to get an interview with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 (edited) 16 hours ago, Mr. Hakujin said: *sigh* I counted two tweets mentioning a three-year-old specifically and five other tweets mentioning either a "baby" or "little kid" in Donatella's posting of the montage of Gunn's cringe tweets. So, yeah, ya got me there. I should've written "baby, little kids, and 3-yr-old" instead of just the latter. It's also commendable that in a post where I essentially agreed with you and tried to put down a truncated version of my thought process on examining this whole thing from multiple pov's you still managed to find a way to take out one line of text and skew the context of my post into a prop for a rage rant. You've really leveled up your contrarian slant game to Breitbart levels. Kudos? Oh calm down, you touchy bastard. You did agree with me, however you were also furthering the "Gunn is betraying pedophilic tendencies" narrative that is at the heart of this matter. You who I know watched the Aristocrats really felt like those tweets when compared to jokes by Patton Oswald, Anthony Jeselnik, Sarah Silverman, Michael Ian Black, George Carlin, Gilbbert Gottfried, and I don't know how many others that those fairly-tame-for-2009 jokes were just too disturbing to not signify something. Did people actually think that video link lead to child porn? We're all smart enough to know a bad source when we see one, this could not have been a more obvious smear job, nobody else noticed the artful way that wall of posts was arranged to make it look like a complete wall of pedophile jokes when fewer than half of them are? And in regard to Roseanne vs. Gunn. Racist jokes ARE racist, pedophile jokes aren't pedophilia. Roseanne compared a black lady to an ape this year, Gunn made some poor taste jokes nearly a decade ago before he was even hired. The situations contrast pretty significantly. I do think companies are too quick to fire people for controversy in general but they made the right call with Roseanne Barr. Edited July 24, 2018 by Iambaytor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted July 23, 2018 Author Share Posted July 23, 2018 roseanne wasn't fired for her older nazi "jokes", she was fired for a current one showing a pattern that she's been a shitty person for decades now and will clearly continue as such. not only is it not directly comparable, intolerance towards that - on an individual level I'd argue, but certainly on a corporate one - is the right answer. nothing was dug up on her and doctored, and even if she had actually apologized for past bigotry, she literally just showers her ass on a willingness to not continue that. alt-right goons rely on people peddling this false narrative. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Also, let's be real, ABC didn't know what they were in for when they dug Roseanne out from under that rock. She may have officially been fired for her racist tweet but she was actually fired because she was a detestable hate-filled asshole and a pizzagater. They just couldn't fire her for being a Trump supporter so they waited until their first chance and took it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted July 23, 2018 Author Share Posted July 23, 2018 i read that sometimes, and i think: these are huge companies, they don't have someone vetting people/doing deep background checks that at least cover open social media accounts? its like saying no one at disney was aware of gunn's troma pedigree; they just assumed he'd not bring any of that into their playpen....and he didn't, really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 (edited) See, I think they vetted Gunn. Those tweets were contemporary at the time and they surely cruised his Imdb. You don't just get put at the head of a multi-million dollar film franchise without getting vetted. But Roseanne has kept a low profile since she went off the air, she popped up on Portlandia a couple times, and ABC isn't Marvel, they're much lower in the corporate structure so they probably went "eh, she's conservative but it's fine" only to learn too late, as all of us did, that Tom Arnold was actually the GOOD one in that marriage and that Roseanne is a monster. Edited July 24, 2018 by Iambaytor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keth Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 These are more and more reasons why Gunn should just get the job back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Visitant Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 I mean it's completely come to light the dude was targeted. Its not like this was some conspiracy theory about the right. Like, we know that they went after him because of his political beliefs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 My secret hope is that this was done to help smooth things along with the Fox buyout and he's just got a Devin Faraci demotion until the ink dries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 hollywood reporter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 I will say I feel vindicated in my stance by one simple fact: Roseanne gets fired for being a shit, everybody talks about what a shit Roseanne was to them. Chris Hardwick gets suspended (AMC apparently found him innocent of wrongdoing, I disagree but since he technically did nothing illegal they're obliged to make whatever wrongheaded mistake they want) and everybody talks about what a shit Chris Hardwick is. James Gunn gets fired and not only do friends and co-workers defend him, people who admit to openly disliking him come to his defense. It's hard to prove a person's changed but when nobody who has worked with you or known you personally is willing to step out and stomp on your neck when you're down that sure points toward you at least being decent to the people in your life. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted July 27, 2018 Author Share Posted July 27, 2018 petition to rehire gunn is over 300k now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 Variety Rumor: Disney Considering Reinstating James Gunn iger being on vacation might also explain the announcement of the replacement's delay, but here's hoping 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C_U_SPACECOWBOY Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 God willing they make this right. Reading peoples comments to this on social media make me think #ThanosWasRight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Cap'n 2099 Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted August 2, 2018 Author Share Posted August 2, 2018 variety's now saying the rehiring isn't likely, didn't read the article yet meantime though, here's something: the truth about james gunn & the pedophile in his childhood 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 The variety article just cites speculation from unnamed sources who claim to know how Disney makes decisions. They're likely right but the article is glorified clickbait. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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