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haha, not a fan of Marvel's 7th Heaven?

 

2T: Hulk - The End was indeed great, wish others had been nearly as good, the X-Men and ^_^ ones were shit. But hey, you mustve read that Punisher one, that was a solid fucking book, only overshadowed by "Punisher: The Cell" around the same time, my opinion.

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One of the Fantastic Four will die.

 

This is some heavy shit. I'm going with Sue.

 

Her death would be the most devastating to the group, if that's what they're going for. It's also the practical answer.

 

Reed is the leader, and there can't be a FF without him. Also, he's too important in the MU.

Ben is an Avenger.

 

That leave Sue and Johnny. If they're going for serious shock value, Sue is the way to go.

 

What do you all think?

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One of the Fantastic Four will die.

 

This is some heavy shit. I'm going with Sue.

 

Her death would be the most devastating to the group, if that's what they're going for. It's also the practical answer.

 

Reed is the leader, and there can't be a FF without him. Also, he's too important in the MU.

Ben is an Avenger.

 

That leave Sue and Johnny. If they're going for serious shock value, Sue is the way to go.

 

What do you all think?

You might be on to something, sir.

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Killing the old and bringing in a new 'Torch' would handily tidy up Chris Evans' involvement as two established MU characters. Agreed that Reed's not going anywhere, and Ben's too widespread to do an Avengers 'funeral' as well as an FF one. Sue's the easier choice for emotional but not cosmic/consequential impact.

 

Plus Namor's due to be a villain again w/this Golden Age crap.

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gotta admit: ive been trying to thin out my pull list, and FF got dropped a long time back - but Hickman's an excellent writer, and i hear nothing bout good about this book.

 

they've done stuff like this before too, no? i'd totally second ly's "meh" but again, this is Hickman, i might be down for the ride. also, yeah, i think you're on the money with Sue here.

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did you finish SI?

that's exactly what they did, and it was around then i lost all interest.

don't get me wrong; its like when the JLA were dropping like flies in Blackest Night; you just know they're gonna hit some magic reset button at the end, but the fact that fucking nobody stayed dead (even characters long gone, like Hawkeye's chick) really took away any potential impact the arc had going. continuity-wise, it might as well have not occurred at all.

 

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Meh.

+1

 

That's my short answer/most succinct reaction to this news as well. However, I rarely pass up the chance to ignite my powers of verbosity and this is no exception. I agree w/ Nick that I dropped off the F4 bandwagon a while ago when Millar ended his latest run--which by the way involved a funeral for *drumroll* Sue Richards! Well, the future version of Sue Richards. So unless the continuity fairy is going to come down and ret-con the Millar storyline, Sue Richards is either a.) not the one to die or b.) only appear to be dead and will somehow be revived/ resuscitated / resurrected in order to lead all the occupants of future 616 back to present day 616 to live on Reed's ex's nu-Earth then to experience the "true death" at the mighty hands of DOOM! I think we all know if Sue--or any member--"dies" it's only temporary anyway.

 

My money for this particular gimmick/ storyline though is on Reed. His death would have the biggest impact on the MU and thus make for a higher profile [i.e. bigger selling] resurrection/return in a year or so.

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I finished the main book, which as proven when I started on the expanded tie-ins explained fuck-all. I think I made it up to around #5 or so and all those monthlies, and there were only so many Xfactor/she-hulk X-overs I could skip through before it all became too much of a chore & I gave up.

 

Again, to my detriment for not staying with the times, I still wasn't sold on Hawkeye's ressurection until I read NA, and was already calling shenanigans on his non-skrull nature so I could have given a fuck about Mockingbird being one. And then i just got cinfused when I saw the genuine article traipsing around during DR or something.

 

Once I finish Siege I'ma have one of you guys(probably Panch) assemble me a pull list of requisite reading so I can keep up.

 

+1

 

That's my short answer/most succinct reaction to this news as well. However, I rarely pass up the chance to ignite my powers of verbosity and this is no exception. I agree w/ Nick that I dropped off the F4 bandwagon a while ago when Millar ended his latest run--which by the way involved a funeral for *drumroll* Sue Richards! Well, the future version of Sue Richards. So unless the continuity fairy is going to come down and ret-con the Millar storyline, Sue Richards is either a.) not the one to die or b.) only appear to be dead and will somehow be revived/ resuscitated / resurrected in order to lead all the occupants of future 616 back to present day 616 to live on Reed's ex's nu-Earth then to experience the "true death" at the mighty hands of DOOM! I think we all know if Sue--or any member--"dies" it's only temporary anyway.

 

My money for this particular gimmick/ storyline though is on Reed. His death would have the biggest impact on the MU and thus make for a higher profile [i.e. bigger selling] resurrection/return in a year or so.

 

 

If it means a reunion of the Atomic Knights, so be it. Illuminati is soo 2005, I want an Atomic Knights monthly!!

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wow, i didn't see this coming:

 

 

Johnny Storm dies.

 

WARNING: THE FOLLOWING ARTICLE CONTAINS SPOILERS FOR FANTASTIC FOUR #587

 

By Ben Morse

 

The tragic saga of “Three” has come to an end in the pages of FANTASTIC FOUR #587—and The Human Torch has fallen. John Storm sacrificed himself so that his niece and nephew as well as his best friend, The Thing, could escape the Negative Zone.

 

It’s a moment series writer Jonathan Hickman knew about a long time ago.

 

“Day one, word one,” he says of when he became aware of Johnny’s imminent demise. “When [Marvel Senior Vice President of Publishing and FANTASTIC FOUR editor] Tom [brevoort] asked me to pitch the book, and then later on when I gave him my detailed arc-by-arc, issue-by-issue breakdown, this was always there. I think if you go back and read all the [issues] I’ve done up to this point you can kind of see how it has led to this.”

 

Though members have come and gone for brief periods over the team’s 50 year history, the Fantastic Four has always reverted back to the family unit of Reed, Sue, Johnny and Ben. With one of these four pillars now gone, Hickman promises inevitable change at the very core of the FF.

 

“Johnny was, in simplistic terms, the ‘id’ of the team,” he explains. “He represented the child-like, more innocent view of the world. He stood in direct contrast to the world ‘as it really is.’ Now, with him gone, and with everything underlined by Reed’s vision of ‘how the world should be,’ his demise both heightens the need for that future to come to pass as well as leaves it in doubt.”

 

With a history stretching back to 1961 and five decades among Marvel’s most popular and recognizable heroes, the Torch

 

leaves behind a significant legacy and an absence that will be felt by fans as well as the characters.

 

“Jack [Kirby] and Stan [Lee] created these characters; if I didn’t feel like I had a responsible story to tell—one told with great effort, craft and possessing a book-specific ‘moral’ center—I would have pitched this and, honestly, it wouldn’t have made it through the room during the creative retreats,” says Hickman.

 

“I thought [Johnny’s sacrifice] should be noble, self-sacrificing and most of all I thought it should be heroic,” he continues. “I think Johnny was most certainly all of those things.”

 

While The Human Torch may be gone, the journeys of Marvel’s First Family march ever forward, with Hickman and artist Steve Epting planning their adventures well into the future.

 

“The next issue of FANTASTIC FOUR, the last one, #558, follows the rest of the team through the month following Johnny’s death,” previews the writer. “Lots of things happen in that issue that not only cover how each of the family members are being affected, but also hints at the massive events right around the corner.

 

“This is not an ending.”

 

 

 

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