Reverend Jax Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 OK, so I had not addressed this issue because everyone was bitchin' about the recent level of drama, and I figured making a big deal wouldn't help. But Nick's saying it's a major concern of some, so I'm addressing it. Firstly, let me bring folks (who might not be in the know) up to speed. Please feel free to amend or contest the accuracy of any part of this story, as my memory is not photographic. Some weeks ago, Joel (archangel) was being himself, a practice that often leads alot of people to argue with him. He resorted to a common practice of his, which is to make it appear that he and his political positions are not welcome on Hondo's, a move meant to make everyone else feel like an asshole. In the midst of this, a poll appeared that was started by an Anonymous poster, asking Hondonians whether Joel should leave Hondo's. Immediately, several people came a posting, defending Joel's right to his opinions, and general talk of how vital an institution he is here on Hondo's. My first instinct was that this was Joel's narcissistic attempt to get people to post nice things about him. The reason I thought this was that anyone else would have just posted with their normal identity. There's no shame in just asking the question, unless you're asking it about yourself, in which case it seems self-serving. Also, Joel is the only one that ever brings up the notion that he is not welcome on Hondo's. Everyone else disagrees with him, not never suggests he should leave. I decided not to inflate his ego and ignore the thread. I thought others would do the same, but for 36 posts, no one else suggested it might be him that made the poll, and they played right into his hands. So, I decided to post my opinion that Joel was behind the poll, but before I did, I ran the IP of the Anonymous poster that started the poll just to be sure. With my strong suspicion confirmed, I posted my belief that Joel started the poll in a confident tone. After 30 more posts of no one giving my theory a mention, I restated it a second and final time. A few weeks later, for completely unrelated reasons, Joel left Hondo's and vowed never to return. In some other thread (I forget which one) Maldron was going on about how terrible the state of discourse on Hondo's is, and said my attitude/tone/demeanor/etc was among the reasons to blame. I think I asked for an example of how I bring the level of discourse down on Hondo's, and he mentioned how I accused Joel of making anonymous polls about himself with "absolutely no evidence." This is the moment in the story that is relevant to the current scandal: I then said that I did have evidence, as I had ran his IP address and found that the computer than posted the anonymous poll was the same Joel has made at least 500 posts from. ----- This IP tool I ran is one I have access to as a member of Administrator Nick's two person team of universal moderators (aka the Drunken Deputies). I do not know if the moderators of single forums have this same power in their own forums, but I do know regular non-mod/admin members do not have access to this tool. Let me first say it's not a common practice of mine to run the IP tool on posts from trolls, anons, madman, tangent man, or anyone else. Secondly, if I had thought it was a real ethical transgression, you should consider that I am now telling everyone here that I wouldn't have done it. If I did think I was doing something unethical, why would I have admitted to it? The fact is, I don't really care much for anonymous posting, and frankly don't feel very passionately for the right for others to post anonymously. Jumbie told me he was afraid my actions would deter people from using anonymous posting in the future, but this point didn't really make me feel bad, as I think people should feel free to say what they want to say under their public persona, and people should be able to be criticized for what they say. That said, how I feel isn't very relevant. The issue is whether this was an unethical use of my supermod power. I feel strongly that actions should be ethical, so I'd like to hear the thoughts of anyone willing to post here. If at some point, we come to the conclusion that my use of IP spying was unethical, I will certainly pledge to never do it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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