Jables Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 Curious as hell about that spoiler Nick, I somehow had a feeling about that one... Could be alla green. Anyways, Aunt May came back well before JMS jumped on. Hell, he was still unheard of & Rising Stars was an Indie title when they brought back Aunt May. It was right before the big relaunch of 99 that lost my interest entirely(they were trynna make up for giving Byrne a bom-bad origin title) which was a good two years before JMS jumped on. This is still back when Bob Harras ranna show and an issue of X-men & a ride on the trolley down to the talkies only cost a dollar. The free-and-easy spidey's been done too, I believe it was Paul Jenkins that either brought MJ back to life or un-divorced them or something. I remember it shitty rendering by JRjr(as usual) he was living with Robbie Robertson's son & bangin' some jamaican chick. He really had no fun, other than dipping into who!? Was it one've MJ's Psych degree friends or one've Gwen Stacy's friends or somethin'. Panch, feel free to help me out here, she had black hair... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted July 3, 2006 Author Share Posted July 3, 2006 yeah, youre right, my time frame was way off. i just knew the book was shit till JMS came on, cause i was a big Spidey fan in the 90's and i woudlnt touch the title after Peter took the webs back up until that point, didnt even read when May came back, to be honest...and i really enjoyed #400, was touching shit when she "died". Im not arguin for or against single, laid-back Spidey, but according to Joe Q's weekly interviews at Newsarama, he's said more than a few times he personally thinks pete's lost his edge, his common touch or somethin similar by being married & settled down with a supermodel. Personally, when civil war ties up? i dont care if he's with her or not, id just like to see Amazing go back to how it was when i dug it: spidey fights like every marvel baddie, one at a time, drawn by Bagley when he drew like he did back then. I honestly had more fun with the title when Spidey coudl fight the Hulk (for some reason) in one issue, next issue it was like a 3-parter with Venom and Carnage and Cardiac or something. anyway... oh yeah, MJ was questionably dead with somehtin to do with Dr Doom, right? and seperated till JMS fixed that. either way, i still say she's a viable candidate if someone big's gotta die. its still funny to see the smaler bits in frontline, though, as if theyre more important...."Sweet fuckall, firestar's haning up the costume? who's going to protect the, uh, deli on 103rd?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jables Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 I dunno man, MJ I still feel is pretty incidental. Last time I read spidey with any regularity was when she was gone, then back & not innerested using the cop's wife' argument(warranted sure, but isn't entertaining). Aunt May, no matter how irritating, is gonna cause a massive inpact(bear in mind too I haven't read #400). MJ departing to me's about the same as Jean Grey dying. We'll piss off downa pub until she's back or the new model steps off the showroom floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drifter Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 I heard MC2 was ending, but also, in MC2 they never mentioned spiderwoman's origins beyond simply saying she was "the daughter of spiderman and MJ," nothing was said about "and then as a baby I was held in the hymalayas by a doomsday cult for several years." So, you're all saying nothing has been mentioned in the current comics about little baby May? Oh, and Peter and MJ have already been seperated for a year or so but that didn't sell comics well so they got back together, and while that was going on Peter and his powers have already been "changed" with some sort of Inca warrior spider right of something... there's some old dude with spider powers out there who is Peter's Guru and talks about Myan pyramids and how Peter's spider powers were "mystical" in nature and not the true product of some radioactive spider bite... that's pretty much when I got fed up with it a couple of years ago... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archangel Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 can someone answer my question? lol what new 'powers' are you talkin' about, Nick? Not quite sure I follow (unless you mean the suit). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Jax Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 (edited) I dont see why not...wait, it comes out this summer? He's gettin a new book right now, anyway... Iron Man's coming out in two years, but you gotta build a character up. I'm guessing Marvel's hoping to propel Iron Man to Spidey/Wolvy status in two year's time. By the way, Nick, Bishopcruz and Drifter were saying Adam "Firefly's Jayne" Baldwin should play Tony Stark/Iron Man in the movie. Whatcha think? Is this possibly a better choice than Bruce Cambell? Edited July 3, 2006 by Jack's Meandering Thoughts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archangel Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 That's a great idea. I think he'd be a great Stark. Btw, Jax...do you have anything on the Iron Man movie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jables Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 Arch- It's all inna suit. Seriously, if my ADD-riddled whitebread can focusd long enough to read that friggin' wiki link yours can too damnit! Stop cheating & suffer like the rest've us! Aside, he does have some new freaky-deaky abilities thanks to reconsiling with his 'other'. Drifter- That's-a Hezekiel you're bitching 'bout and yeah, t'was lame-o stuff. I read maybe one or two've JMS' arcs in trade 'cause by that point i'd pretty much stopped buying Spidey outside've big events, but was never really impressed with his jazz. JRjr's pencils don't help none neither. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jont Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 By the way, Nick, Bishopcruz and Drifter were saying Adam "Firefly's Jayne" Baldwin should play Tony Stark/Iron Man in the movie. Whatcha think? Is this possibly a better choice than Bruce Cambell? I don't know if Bruce Campbell would be good for the role, it would be kind of like casting Charlie Sheen in Top Gun. But if you're looking for someone who's smooth, man-pretty and can do action I suggest Josh Lucas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted July 6, 2006 Author Share Posted July 6, 2006 can someone answer my question? lolwhat new 'powers' are you talkin' about, Nick? Not quite sure I follow (unless you mean the suit). Wiki » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Peter is still in a state of confusion and is having some sort of an identity crisis after his rebirth. With no time to contemplate the events of days past, Spider-Man rushes to the scene of an explosion, where a building was just demolished and people are trapped under the debris. Spider-Man quickly begins to "dig" into the remains of the building, and in his attempt and find survivors, he discovers that he has new powers. His new powers include night vision, the ability to feel vibrations through his webbing, and the ability to carry heavy objects on his back. and no, i dont think ive seen him use them once since, except for the stingers from his arms or whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jables Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 So I caught ish 2 of Civil War. Those dirty ratzi bastards aren't gonna catch me sleepin' next time. Big Props to the Filthy Assistant for mailing it to me all sealed & boarded & everything(after like, three days of antagonizing postcards. Bitch knows hota make a guy sweat.) and WOW. Ya think you're prepared for that splash but nope, it still floored me. Cap popping in-and-off the grid to beat the shit outta morts ain't half bad neither. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newtype Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 HOLY CRAP!!!!! Did anybody read this yet. The last page of the issue was fucking sweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted July 20, 2006 Author Share Posted July 20, 2006 shit, its out? fucking scans, this time tomorrow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jables Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Bah. Last scene wasn't anything I could get excited about. I'm just heart-broken at how hard the pro-rego crew are gunning Cap. Then there was the Herc bit. Like I need a reason to resent » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Thor any more than I already did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted July 22, 2006 Author Share Posted July 22, 2006 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Great issue, but i gotta ask skeet and you pro-reg fucks: how can you be liking your side? i dont think its being written right now like theyre the good guys. Granted, Stark tried to reach out & share his plans, but...i just dont see them as being centered, theyre just this side of villified. Its like, im resenting Thing, Ms Marvel, and the rest of them as uncle tom's. mebbe its just me, seems writtten that way. I mean..cape-killers? Bishop in the shadows? As if i dont have enough on my plate with uh, trying to figure out how Cable runs a nation, who this non-blind DD is (brubaker, im lookin at you for this one) and Stark banged Emma in the day!? PS covers to # 4: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted July 24, 2006 Author Share Posted July 24, 2006 so, our absentee Skeeter complains that there's not enough talk on this thread, that his vile pro-reg stance remains unchallenged. i shall reiterate our current points and hope that others who're against this'll do likewise, all 2 of you. I know the anonnymity thing/traditin is a weak argument from Falcoln. Good intentions aside, these people do/have acted outside the law for years, and i like how they point out most of them dont even stay around to officially transfer a citizen's arrest. With my licenses, i can appreciate the need for standardization. But this is going about it wrong. 1) Employing them federally and giving them S.H.I.E.L.D. assignments/posts leads them directly down the "pre-emptive strike" road the Ultimates took, becoming government/corporate tools. These people want to serve the interests of americans in the streets, not the administration overseas and such. Cap would not be down for this. and that's not even figuring in how corrupt SHIELD is right now. 2) Cap makes the point in # 3 about how safe does Mary Jane feel now that spidey's huge villian cast can find her? Saying that judges and federal agents and such have to deal with threats all the time isnt the same; these are people who have vengeful, homicidal super-powered maniacs after them. If you were Peter, you honestly think keeping May and Mary in Stark Tower means theyre safe from say, Carnage knowing where to find them? The last Avengers mansion got burned down, you know. 3) Those that do sell out play ball for the government, some are being forced to violently hunt down their friends, taking crews of "cape-killers" with them in tow in case they dont fall in line. Stark, Thing, She-Hulk, Ms Marvel, all of them are huge sellouts who mayve intended well, tryin to meet with Cap and spread the word of whatever dangerous new containment plan Reed & Tony are working on, but they brought an army of trained special-ops to their door to mow their friends down if things went south, as they were going to. To me, that looks more like they care about their agenda over their friends. I know everyone's playing a part, but again, how do you see the pro-reg people as not being villified sellouts? Stark got more character inmy book, but Rogers and his "fuck them, let's keep doing our thing and fighting crime" team just looked like 10x cooler now too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newtype Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 It's funny when you think about it. The anti-group are out in the street fighting to keep the people safe an saving live's. Then you look at the pro-group and all they have is a hard on to track all hero's who don't want to become a government/corporate tool. What has the pro-group done other then look for cap an his crew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted July 24, 2006 Author Share Posted July 24, 2006 Its true, theyre kinda off-duty and the book keeps saying the villains are unifying and expoliting this, but in the civil war books ive read so far (frontline, wolverine, cable & deadpool etc) everyone's either running or taking jobs hunting others. i havent seen much of the villians - mebbe cause i havent caught up on Thunderbolts yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archangel Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 sounds like the boys over at Marvel chose sides themselves, and sided with Cap. While the registration act was an interesting idea, I don't think (from what you say of this issue) they're giving it a fair shake. They all do look like pricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted July 24, 2006 Author Share Posted July 24, 2006 Thing is...Tony seemd to have his hand out (you read # 3 yet? if not, dont read this man) tryin to explain his master plan to Cap. This project 47 or whatever it is, Tony & Reed, some of the Marvel U's brightest, they seem to think this'll fix the villian problem and a host of otehrs, somehow, and Cap didnt give him the chance to lay it out. They did a good job at points making me believe these guys think theyre doing the right thing, and Skeet's right, in reality the pro-reg thing'd be a given, but its the way theyre going about this (hunting down) that's poor. Then again, Stark cited something like 90% favorability with the people for the current plan; that could be either before things got harsh, or like 9-11, how americans wanted blood afterards: after the Stamford incident, people want full accoutnability, and seem pretty much ok with whatever means are used to get it (i liked the conversation between the 2 nurses in the hospital scene). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archangel Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 haven't read it yet, but I don't much care about having things spoiled, enjoying more the storyline than anything else. Is it up at your other forum yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted July 24, 2006 Author Share Posted July 24, 2006 yeah, Z-Cult put it out in last week's DCP release, on tracker B. Im sure Pirate Bay and other sites have it, too, in that DCP pack. Its a big storyline though, few major things oughta happen as it goes along, so ima try not to spoil it nonetheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drifter Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 isn't SHIELD also actively recruiting supervillians to start hunting down anyone who doesn't register? That cannot end well. How is Peter going to react when Norman Osborn shows up with a squad of SHIELD special ops there to "back him up?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jables Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 So that's where Osbourne's at? That's gonna be some cool & freaky shit. I'm suprised more Osbourne/Stark relations haven't come out before(wouldn't suprise me if Osbourne's funding a chunk've Stark's initiative in return for certain uh... Concessions). And Nick? S'what I'm saying too. I can't help but be logical on this one, and logically speaking this is pretty much the only route can be taken without something like Kingdom Come(though it already IS disturbingly close). Still, I'm fucking appalled at how hard & dirty the pro-crew's gunning for Cap. It's a tough one for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopcruz Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 My biggest problem with the pro-reg thing is that it is mandatory even if you are retired or no longer want to fight. New Avengers dealt with this with Luke and Jessica: » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Where Jessica was told, in no uncertain terms even if she didn't want to do any heroing she had to register, and that the government would still be in charge of how she was deployed. Luke likened the whole thing to lynchings in 1950s missisippi. What gets me is the sheer hardcore zeal that the pro-reg people have. I swear for those like Reed and Tony it's almost a religious thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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