alive she cried Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 (edited) Also this. We’ve been lucky that [contract expirations] haven’t factored in too much. We’ve had people under contract for certain films, then we’ve had new ideas and new directions like Civil War like we wanted to do, and we’ve been lucky enough to make new contracts. Or Spider-Man: Homecoming, the cast has been awesome in their enthusiasm for the direction and the storylines that we’ve been telling. So it really does, right now, all start with where we wanna take the stories. Certainly as we get to Infinity War there is a sense of a climax if not a conclusion to, by the time we’re at untitled Avengers 4, the 22 movies that will have encompassed the first three phases of the MCU. And what happens after that will be very different. I don’t know if it’s Phase 4, it might be a new thing. Edited July 9, 2017 by alive she cried Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 i like a lot of that, but part of me thinks ill be relieved when infinity war's all tied up & just like in the comics, there's fewer universe-wide huge existential threats. i know street level netflix is my lane of choice but i'm also down to see bigger characters in quieter/more closed off stories too. the shared universe thing has been amazing & i'm not gonna act like i don't love the nods/cameos but i'm wondering if 2 parts of infinity gauntlet/whatever just leave everyone feeling exhausted of it, you know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Nemo McFly Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 I don't know how they're gonna top 'Infinity War'. Don't think you can. The hype levels of that post-credit Thanos-smile at the end of the first Avengers...(squeeeeeeeel!!!) Iconic Avengers, Guardians of the Galaxy...and fucking Spider-man?! All together on-screen in a 2-part battle (is it still 2 parts?) for the Universe / 'Infinity Stones'? I still slap myself. Whatever comes after - makes sense that'll probably be a different animal...not sum attempt to 'do it again...but bigger and louder'. Probably will indeed be a series of more closed off / 'street-level' stories...I can see Spidey leading that charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Cap'n 2099 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 Kang the Conqueror? Also, if Fox can get their heads out of their asses we can finally get Dr. Doom and/or Galactus and/or Annihilius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alive she cried Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 Pretty sure Kang is with Fox as well. He did first appear in FF after all. I also would love to see more grounded stories being told in the future. Homecoming being a fantastic example of just that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 Kang the Conqueror? Also, if Fox can get their heads out of their asses we can finally get Dr. Doom and/or Galactus and/or Annihilius. yeah, kirby & co left most of the great cosmic baddies in the FF corner. kills me, it's like we need that rogue's gallery back more than the family itself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 Annihilus being a Fantastic Four villain means we can't do Annihilation, BUT the main villain of Annihilation Conquest is around and that is a more epic story than the Infinity Gauntlet, easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 let's say marvel had all the rights back: how would you do annihilation? we've introduced next to nobody, i feel it'd take a few flicks and part of me wants to say that's easier as a show but then the budget could get syfy real quick too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Cap'n 2099 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 You make the Guardians the centerpiece (like the Avengers are now). Fantastic Four, Silver Surfer, Nova flicks. Rocket & Groot flick for fun. You dail back the original Avengers. Stark. Cap. Widow. Hawkguy. Thor & Hulk cameos. Starlord or Captain Marvel cameos everywhere (new Tony Stark). All building up to Guardians of the Galaxy: Annihilation vols 1&2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 You'd do Annihilation the same way they've handled Thanos, build up the cosmic universe one movie at a time and introduce your various characters of significance like Blastaar, Quasar, Nova, and the like. Hell, half the work's already been done since unlike 90% of the people who picked up Annihilation back when it came out, moviegoers actually know who Gamora, Star Lord, Drax the Destroyer, and Thanos are. But Annihlation Conquest would be easier since you-know-who has already been introduced and built up in his own movie so the big rug-pull reveal would have some weight and movies like Captain Marvel, Black Panther, Guardians of the Galxy, whatever form the Thor movies take, and potentially Nova could explore the Marvel cosmic universe more deeply setting up stakes for that event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 Mark Ruffalo wants you to get those dreams of a standalone Hulk movie out of your head — for good. In a red carpet interview with Variety that followed the D23 trailer debut of Avengers: Infinity War, the actor strongly rejected even the possibility of Bruce Banner getting his own film. “I want to just make one thing perfectly clear today: A standalone Hulk movie will never happen,” Ruffalo said. “Universal has the rights, and for some reason, they don’t know how to play well with Marvel. And they don’t want to make money.” Yes, that’s Ruffalo taking a pretty clear shot at Universal Pictures there, too. He’s expressed frustration with the studio’s inability to strike a deal with Marvel for years, and his latest comments aren’t likely to improve the tenuous situation, to say the least. So we might have to take him at his word. At least we’ll always have Edward Norton? i'd assumed as much, but i guess it's good having confirmation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keth Posted July 16, 2017 Author Share Posted July 16, 2017 Yeah why did Norton's version happen then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted July 16, 2017 Share Posted July 16, 2017 That was back before Marvel Studios was a proper thing, they were going through Paramount at the time. Now that they're with Disney it's very unlikely that Universal will broker a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Nemo McFly Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 (edited) But the characters can cross over - so, do we really need another solo flick? I was super-pumped that General Ross made it to Civil War. I expect Red Skull to appear in 'Infinity War' - it'd be awesome if somehow 'Abomination' makes a return, too. Maybe set lose on Earth...he got a mention in one of those 'Marvel One-Shots' - I'd love Infinity War to bring everything together for 'one last hurrah'...even Jane Foster and Liv Tyler as Betty Ross...that'd be freakin' awesome! (I'd prefer Jennifer Connelly - but even more stuff from the Norton version crossing over would be epic) Edited July 17, 2017 by Little Nemo McFly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hakujin Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 You make the Guardians the centerpiece (like the Avengers are now). Fantastic Four, Silver Surfer, Nova flicks. Rocket & Groot flick for fun. You dail back the original Avengers. Stark. Cap. Widow. Hawkguy. Thor & Hulk cameos. Starlord or Captain Marvel cameos everywhere (new Tony Stark). All building up to Guardians of the Galaxy: Annihilation vols 1&2. James Gunn just came. Seriously though, I'm not sure if Gunn would like that or not. I think he definitely has a trilogy in mind for Peter Quill, and as long as he gets to do that he'll be happy. I was talking the other day with my friend who owns a comic shop, and he's defiantly certain that MCU Phase IV will involve the Silver Surfer and Fantastic 4. Actually, he's of the mind that silver surfer will show up in one of the two upcoming Avengers Infinitiy War films, but I don't see how that's going to happen unless it's the second one. Maybe. Feige worked magic with SONY and Spidey, maybe he can do the same with Fox & the F4 characters. But apparently not with Hulk and Universal though. I wonder if since the Mummy was such a colossal flop they'll try and work the Hulk into their new "monster verse"? Crazier shit has happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Cap'n 2099 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 With a Dr. Doom film on the way for Fox, I don't see Fantastic Four any time soon. Hope I'm wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drifter Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 I've been musing over my fantasy casting of Doctor Doom... I'm saddened that Raul Julia as another M. Bison type character would have been perfect but alas... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Stan Lee: Marvel Working To Get Rights Back to X-Men and Fantastic Four “Sooner or later, they’re going to get the rights back to all our characters. They’re working on it, and they’re still making X-Men movies and stuff. Don’t worry about it. You’ll get more Marvel superheroes than you’ll have time to look at in the next few years.” Stan Lee says that fans need not worry as “sooner or later,” the movie rights to all Marvel characters, including the X-Men and the Fantastic Four, will eventually return to Marvel Studios. The mutants and the foursome pioneering property from the famed comic book house are currently under the safe keeping of 20th Century Fox, which has been adapting those comic book series to film for years now. This makes for a great divide between the Fox Marvel Universe and Marvel Cinematic Universe where the Avengers, Guardians of the Galaxy and even now Spider-Man operate. nothing really specific here (kinda sounds like stan shooting the shit, which is still cool) but i do feel it's inevitable, eventually. FF have to be the next ones to make the leap, which would really open up the villains cast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keth Posted September 13, 2017 Author Share Posted September 13, 2017 God, how cool would it be for Doom to finally make an appearance in the MCU? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drifter Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Doom has been one of the worst portrayed villains in cinema history; no one has ever gotten it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 That's really because the only people who have tried haven't actually tried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drifter Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 The voice actor in the 90s cartoon was pretty decent, and once Julian McMahon went full ham he was passable but I heard that the latest guy, Toby Kebbell, was just a travesty- worse part of that shitpile of a movie I've read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 The movies were all half-passed and decided to interpret Doom in new and "interesting" ways. Everybody wants to ground The Fantastic Four for some stupid reason. It's right there in the title; FANTASTIC Four, it needs to be massive and bombastic. We don't want or need a gritty and realistic take on these characters, go big or go home. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alive she cried Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 (edited) ^ This guy gets it. They need to remember that when the FF were first created they weren't even classed as superheroes, they were adventurers. We need fun, exciting, and light hearted (but not babyish) adventure . Basically, exactly what Marvel are currently doing with the cosmic universe. Edited September 14, 2017 by alive she cried Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drifter Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 (edited) We need epic levels of both ham and cheese... Raul Julia/M.Bison levels with a heaping helping of Brian Blessed in his prime! Edited September 14, 2017 by Drifter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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