Mr. Hakujin Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Double post is double. Star Trek: Into Darkness Does not stand up well on second viewing. Abrams is like the kid who instead of playing a board game by the rules, picks up the pieces and starts shouting "Pew pew! I totally just killed all your dudes HAHAHA" Likewise with movies. Oh let's just forget about all that movie nonsense like storytelling, proper pacing or emotional resonance and just put in MORE LENS FLARE. Also instead of some character development... OH BIG SHIP EXPLOSION! Huh. I actually liked it more on the second viewing. I think I even posted in here about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 I see the gripe with it being dumber, but that's been a problem of all the movies (Wrath of Khan is the only one with any outsider appeal and it's still slower than Christmas), at least it was entertaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crimsonfire Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 It had entertaining scenes but otherwise it just seemed to blunder half-blinded from all the lens flare from one set-piece to another. I also hate to be such a whiney fanboy but if you're going to make a Star Trek film you don't just wipe your arse with the canon so thoroughly. The first one found a nice balance between Trekkie-pleasing and accessibility but the sequel was just a shameless vanity project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Let's be fair, everything post-Deep Space Nine has been a shameless vanity project. And I forgive most of the canon issues not centered around Benedict Cumberbatch looking nothing like Ricardo Montalban on the grounds that the inherent nature of this new universe is that things aren't going to happen the way they have in the past. It lacked a lot of the quiet moments and I certainly would like to see the crew just not going from one disaster to the next, but it's still a long long way off from the bad movie. The movie's main and most unforgivable sin is in withholding information (and in some cases outright lying) and pretending that the reveal of how wrong it is is some sort of mind-bending twist. Still, it is entertaining for the most part and better than any of the other Star Trek movies (except the second). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hakujin Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 (edited) Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. How is it all this shit has not been put in spoiler tags by Nick? A: Because Nick don't cares nothing 'bout no Star Treks. Let's be fair, everything post-Deep Space Nine has been a shameless vanity project... pour vous Edited September 10, 2013 by Mr. Hakujin thpoilerth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Post means "after", are you really gonna stand here and tell me that Voyager, Enterprise, and Nemesis were anything special? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Jax Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Does First Contact count as post-Deep Space Nine? I mean, it came out while Deep Space Nine was still on the air, but so did Voyager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iambaytor Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 All the movies were vanity projects, ALL OF THEM. Well gee, I think that Voyager probably started after Deep Space Nine did? Let me see? Does 1995 come after 1993? I'm no expert but I'm going to go with "yes." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Jax Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Well gee, I think that Voyager probably started after Deep Space Nine did? Let me see? Does 1995 come after 1993? I'm no expert but I'm going to go with "yes." It's not clear when you say 'post-Deep Space Nine' if you mean after DS9 premiered (1993), or after it ended (1999). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The NZA Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 i thought even trekkie fans said most stuff beyond first contact was to be thrown in the bushes? could be wrong i guess 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crimsonfire Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 My issue here is not whizz bang and beautiful people. Most Star Trek fans prior to Abrams whoring up the franchise were contemplative introverted folk who enjoyed the moral and ethical themes. NOT lens flare and gratuitous phaser play. It all comes down to what you liked about Trek to begin with. If you were in it for the space battles then Abrams films are for you. If like me and most Trekkies you were in it for the interesting ideas and exploration of concepts then they are not going to be your thing. Trek fandom aside I thought Into Darkness wasn't a very well written movie and that the pacing was terrible. The plot was lame and didn't make a whole lot of sense in anything claiming to be the ST universe. Nick - First Contact was enjoyable. Generations and Insurrection weren't as bad as they're made out to be. Nemesis was truly awful. Skinny Tom Hardy was about the only good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keth Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Man I cannot wait until the next Star Wars movie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the division of joy Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 I think I'm just about the only person who liked Nemesis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crimsonfire Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 I fucking can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newtype Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 The Last Airbender Got to the earth bender prison and said fuck it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycaon Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 You watched the Last Airbender movie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newtype Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 You watched the Last Airbender movie? Yes. I wanted to watch it before I started watching the show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycaon Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 ... Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panch Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I did this same thing. Made me appreciate the show that much more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycaon Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Ah. Good point. But at what cost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Jax Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 He watched it in the wrong order. The appropriate order is the Avatar: The Last Airbender TV series first, The Legend of Korra TV series second, then The Last Airbender movie never. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycaon Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 He watched it in the wrong order. The appropriate order is the Avatar: The Last Airbender TV series first, The Legend of Korra TV series second, then The Last Airbender movie never. See, from what I've heard of that movie, that would've been my assumption. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newtype Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 ... Why? Because I don't hate myself enough to save it for last. I remember Jax being in a daze for a good week or two after watching the movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Jax Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 You didn't finish watching it (that's what I took from you saying "got to the earth bender prison and said fuck it"), and you had no affection for the show any of the characters. Anyway, if you are inclined to revisit it after watching the TV series, the Rifftrax would be the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hakujin Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Ahh!Zombies Comedy with a great concept (POV toggles back and forth from humans to zombies--only the zombies don't know they're zombies), but horrible, horrible execution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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